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c240yaz · 11-06-2008, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 230K

Hi

I cant explain why you have had no difference in your economy and am not going to start speculating as to why.

I am only going on my experience. Your experience is different from mine, hey thats fine.

I am only trying to give the poster heads up, and your doing the same.

Best of luck to you.

230k

You too. Could it be related to tyre pressure as previously suggested. I am no tyre expert though.

skymastor · 11-06-2008, 11:54 PM

You took out the "how did you get those figures" line, but I responded anyhow..

c240yaz · 11-06-2008, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 230K

Hi

I cant explain why you have had no difference in your economy and am not going to start speculating as to why.

I am only going on my experience. Your experience is different from mine, hey thats fine.

I am only trying to give the poster heads up, and your doing the same.

Best of luck to you.

230k

I cant explain either, but to be honest, I see no difference at all in fuel consumption. Maybe it could be down to motorway miles I am doing compared to others who have had urban driving experience, which I very rarely enconter ?

c240yaz · 12-06-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by skymastor

You took out the "how did you get those figures" line, but I responded anyhow..

The edit did not affect my post or your reply

skymastor · 12-06-2008, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by c240yaz

I cant explain either, but to be honest, I see no difference at all in fuel consumption. Maybe it could be down to motorway miles I am doing compared to others who have had urban driving experience, which I very rarely enconter ?

The travelling I compared on was motorway travel (Yorkshire-London) and I did experience the drop in MPG. Honestly, I was considering putting the old wheels back on before I sold them, but luckily enough the tinkering sorted it out…

skymastor · 12-06-2008, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by c240yaz

The edit did not affect my post or your reply

Not one iota...

bigmacplease · 13-06-2008, 01:41 PM

If you notice a difference in fuel economy from changing to 18s then I think thats a little sad. Just my opinion but come on whats a few mpg in the grand scheme of things?

I personally can't say I've noticed any difference but they I've never sat down with a calculator to work out my MPG, I thought about, then decided to carry on living my life!

Heres a couple of pics for you:

kjay · 13-06-2008, 02:07 PM

Nice pics BigMac' !!

Jay.

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R2D2 · 13-06-2008, 02:18 PM

LOL. He's a modder...don't look at the car, look at his wife/girlfriend....
Head in hands "what am I doing with a man who photographs wheels on old airstrips"

We've all be there, we've all been on the receiving end of that look!!

whitenemesis · 13-06-2008, 08:30 PM

Still reckon it needs to drop a bit at the back

Looking forward to seeing it in the metal soon

bigmacplease · 13-06-2008, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by R2D2

LOL. He's a modder...don't look at the car, look at his wife/girlfriend....
Head in hands "what am I doing with a man who photographs wheels on old airstrips"

We've all be there, we've all been on the receiving end of that look!!

Haha that is hilarious me and the mrs just had a right chuckle reading that!!

whitenemesis · 13-06-2008, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bigmacplease

Haha that is hilarious me and the mrs just had a right chuckle reading that!!

Hah! I just got a dirty look.

Mrs WN has been round this track all too often.

Dieselman · 13-06-2008, 11:47 PM

Back on topic.
Larger wheels are meant to increase rolling resistance due to the sidewall having less flex so not allowing the tyre tread to deform as readily thus creating more heat within the tyre. Heat is energy so is lost motion.

I don't know whether this is going to happen in all cases but is the theory behind increased consumption on larger wheel sizes.

It's also why lower profile tyres cause a greater tramlining effect.

whitenemesis · 13-06-2008, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dieselman

Back on topic.
Larger wheels are meant to increase rolling resistance due to the sidewall having less flex so not allowing the tyre tread to deform as readily thus creating more heat within the tyre. Heat is energy so is lost motion.

I don't know whether this is going to happen in all cases but is the theory behind increased consumption on larger wheel sizes.

It's also why lower profile tyres cause a greater tramlining effect.

Erm,, Creating more heat will increase the inflation pressure and so reduce the amount of flex?

Tramlining will be related to the contact patch and perhaps more importantly the tread depth.

Consumption will be realated to frontal area and drag plus the rolling resistance.. Complicated.....

c240yaz · 14-06-2008, 12:03 AM

Drove home 250 miles tonight. No difference once again on the 18s. Average MPG this time was slightly better than ussual.

13-06-2008, 02:18 PM	#54
R2D2 Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2004 Car: W204 C350 Elegance (1 of 97 left in the uk) Posts: 7,275	LOL. He's a modder...don't look at the car, look at his wife/girlfriend.... Head in hands "what am I doing with a man who photographs wheels on old airstrips" We've all be there, we've all been on the receiving end of that look!! Last edited by R2D2; 18-06-2008 at 03:29 PM.

11-06-2008, 11:54 PM	#47
skymastor Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South Yorkshire & NRW Germany Car: C240 Avantgarde with AMG Styling Posts: 177	You took out the "how did you get those figures" line, but I responded anyhow..

13-06-2008, 01:41 PM	#52
bigmacplease Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South West Car: W245 B170 Posts: 542	If you notice a difference in fuel economy from changing to 18s then I think thats a little sad. Just my opinion but come on whats a few mpg in the grand scheme of things? I personally can't say I've noticed any difference but they I've never sat down with a calculator to work out my MPG, I thought about, then decided to carry on living my life! Heres a couple of pics for you:

13-06-2008, 02:07 PM	#53
kjay Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: buxton, derbyshire Car: C200k Coupe 2003 Posts: 1,012	Nice pics BigMac' !! Jay. .

13-06-2008, 08:30 PM	#55
whitenemesis Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: May 2007 Car: CLS55 AMG '05 Posts: 7,577	Still reckon it needs to drop a bit at the back Looking forward to seeing it in the metal soon

13-06-2008, 11:47 PM	#58
Dieselman Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2003 Car: Peugeot 403 Convertible Posts: 28,810	Back on topic. Larger wheels are meant to increase rolling resistance due to the sidewall having less flex so not allowing the tyre tread to deform as readily thus creating more heat within the tyre. Heat is energy so is lost motion. I don't know whether this is going to happen in all cases but is the theory behind increased consumption on larger wheel sizes. It's also why lower profile tyres cause a greater tramlining effect.

14-06-2008, 12:03 AM	#60
c240yaz Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,096	Drove home 250 miles tonight. No difference once again on the 18s. Average MPG this time was slightly better than ussual.

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