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Old 26-04-2012, 11:49 AM   #1
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Not Merc - Alfa Brera

Looks like a very good price. I'm waiting for these to come down in price further - have always loved them!

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Old 26-04-2012, 12:04 PM   #2
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I'm with you on this Shakter, I just love the styling. My choice would be the 2010 special edition Alfa reveals special-edition Brera - Autocar.co.uk complete with matt paint.
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Old 26-04-2012, 01:07 PM   #3
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+1, in fact I can remember stopping to look at one in a car park a couple of years back and I almost never do that.
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Old 26-04-2012, 03:28 PM   #4
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Prodrive one is meant to be the one to get. Handles like it looks (apparently)

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Old 26-04-2012, 04:02 PM   #5
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Its a beautiful machine. Don't care about the so-called Alfa reliability - this car is too pretty to ignore!
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Old 26-04-2012, 04:07 PM   #6
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I wish my Mercedes had been even half as reliable as my wife's Alfa...
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Old 26-04-2012, 05:02 PM   #7
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The 159 saloon I owned had that motor. I did'nt keep it too long. For a diesel engine they are thirsty, turbo lag very apparant and the dpf is commonly problamatic. The later / soon introduced 210 bhp replacement is meant to suffer less turbo lag.
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Old 26-04-2012, 05:12 PM   #8
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I love those, my friend owned the V6 petrol for about six months and I got to drive it a few times.

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Old 26-04-2012, 05:12 PM   #9
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|It's from the same family of Fiat/GM 4 cylinder diesels found in Vauxhalls, Saabs, Fiats etc. They probably squeezed more power out of it with larger capacity and more top end boost--possibly at the expense of turbo lag? The newer twin sequential turbo versions of this engine first seen in the late Saab 9-3? and recent VAUXHALL Insignia are reckoned to be better. JTD engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The BERA is good looking car but for me it would have to be petrol engined for that true ALFA experience
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Old 26-04-2012, 05:27 PM   #10
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|It's from the same family of Fiat/GM 4 cylinder diesels found in Vauxhalls, Saabs, Fiats etc. They probably squeezed more power out of it with larger capacity and more top end boost--possibly at the expense of turbo lag? The newer twin sequential turbo versions of this engine first seen in the late Saab 9-3? and recent VAUXHALL Insignia are reckoned to be better. JTD engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The BERA is good looking car but for me it would have to be petrol engined for that true ALFA experience
The 5 cylinder motor is actually is actually a stand alone design from the 4 cylinder motors which Saab and Vauxhall used. It was used by some Fiats and succesfully in the 156 in different states of tune/10 valve heads for example.

I think you're right about the top end boost at the expense of turbo lag. The sheer weight of the cars together with the dpf hampering the engine's characteristics are part of the problem
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