**THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE** Privacy invasion

The Boss · 10-06-2009, 01:16 AM

TAKE NOTE: THIS WILL AFFECT EVERYONE.. AND TONIGHT ON LBC, THE MARKETING DIRECTOR STATED THAT SHE WILL FIND A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO OPT OUT FOR FREE VIA THEIR WEBSITE SOON, AS AT MOMENT, IF YOU WANT TO OPT OUT, YOU WILL NEED TO PAY THE TEXT MESSAGE SERVICE FEE OF AROUND £0.15, which is ALOT of our money going into some ones pocket.. and that pocket is not yours!!

The upcoming launch of the first mobile phone directory was yesterday attacked as a 'clear invasion of privacy'.

Connectivity, the company behind the service, has bought details of 16million phone numbers - around 40 per cent of those in regular use in the UK.

It says it will not give out mobile numbers, but instead act as an intermediary to put users in touch with whoever they are searching for.

But Nigel Evans MP, the Conservative chairman of the All Party Group on ID Fraud, described the emergence of the new service as 'shocking' and 'depressing'.

He said: 'People feel that their mobile phone number is very private to them and should not be traded for profit.

'People will be infuriated if they find they are bombarded with calls from people they don't want or expect to hear from. It is a clear invasion of privacy.'

Connectivity has bought its list of mobile numbers from brokers - who themselves have purchased personal details from market research firms and online stores.

Individuals will also be able to volunteer to place their numbers with the mobile directory inquiry service, which launches on June 16.

Connectivity insists it is 'privacy friendly' because it does not hand over mobile phone numbers to users of the service.

Instead, operators will find and dial the target's number and ask whether they are prepared to receive the call.

However, Simon Davies of Privacy International - who left the project after working on it as a paid consultant during its early phase - is worried about how the numbers have been collected.

'There are fundamental privacy issues,' he said. 'The company needs to be far more specific about where it acquired the numbers on its directory.

Connectivity claims it has been given approval for its service by the Office of the Information Commission.

But an ICO spokesman said: 'We made it absolutely clear to Connectivity that they should not use numbers where there was any doubt about whether the consumer was happy for their information to be used in this way.'

The chief executive of 118800, Raj Raithatha, yesterday insisted that personal privacy will be protected.

He said: 'All searches on 118800.co.uk are via our secure application that doesn't show mobile numbers or names and addresses of individuals. Neither do we give prompts that could disclose personal information.'
It is possible to become ex-directory by texting the letter 'E' to 118 800 from your mobile phone.

However, this will carry a charge and the change could take several weeks.

IF THE GOVERNMENT WANT SOME BROWNIE POINTS FOR BROWN, THEN THEY SHOULD INTERVENE DON'T YA THINK!

ringway · 10-06-2009, 01:28 AM

Got your number mate!

I'll call you later..

Dryce · 10-06-2009, 01:29 AM

Big yawn.

How useful is a directory service that charges money and holds a minority of numbers - a proportion of which at any time will churn.

I'm much more annoyed with the DVLA that allows cowboy parking companies to access their database.

The G.F.P · 10-06-2009, 03:58 AM

yet another bunch of swines making money from personal details

shoot them

MrT · 10-06-2009, 07:02 AM

And where exactly have they 'bought' the details of these 16m numbers from?

lewyboy · 10-06-2009, 07:19 AM

So somebody can pay £1 to call my mobile?

Knock yourselves out, I couldn't care less.

Don't you have to give permission to accept the call?

As far as I can se this amounts to nothing, after all it's only your mobile phone and you could always turn it off if people insisited on calling you on it.

lynall · 10-06-2009, 07:54 AM

Just get another free sim and away you go again, but and its a big but once this starts where will it all stop? anpr cctv it just gets better and better.

Lynall

Smiley · 10-06-2009, 08:00 AM

Privacy? What is the problem? Think about it - take it to the extreme and your phone number was only known to you - like a PIN number - then how would anyone be able to call you? And how would you be able to call anyone else assuming that their numbers were all private too? The phone would become useless - thats the whole point of it - to contact people.
I think it is a good idea as long as it is just name and number, and especially if it is authorised by you.
If you have something to hide then ditch the phone.

nick mercedes · 10-06-2009, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Boss

[COLOR=Red]IF YOU WANT TO OPT OUT, YOU WILL NEED TO PAY THE TEXT MESSAGE SERVICE FEE OF AROUND £0.15, which is ALOT of our money going into some ones pocket..

Don't most people get loads of free text messages every month? I do and never use them.

Bit of a usless service as so many people use PAYG mobiles and I doubt their details will be on the database.

nick mercedes · 10-06-2009, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiley

Privacy? What is the problem?

Because some people don't like handing their mobile number out to all and sundry?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiley

If you have something to hide then ditch the phone.?

Only people with something to hide value their privacy??

renault12ts · 10-06-2009, 08:39 AM

It would be difficult for the Gov. to object on high moral grounds given the levels of invasive data collection that they are and will be undertaking.

corned · 10-06-2009, 09:06 AM

Our phones, including mobiles, are registered with TPS so I would have quite a bit to say if I ever receive a call from these people. Plus a formal complaint to OFCOM as a result.

grober · 10-06-2009, 09:19 AM

Shona Forster, 118800's Marketing Director, was banging on about this on the BBC'S Working Lunch yesterday. I confess I missed most of it but I dare say you can watch it again on the Iplayer. BBC NEWS | Programmes | Working Lunch | Mobile phone directory to launch

pipmk · 10-06-2009, 09:58 AM

So all those idiots who annoy everyone with their "I'm on the train"and other statements of the glaringly obvious or look like they had their 'phone welded to their head are going to get nuisance calls and get some idea of how B----dy annoying their obsession is to normal people.Perhaps they will then learn to pick a brand of cereal without ringing 10 other people at maximum volume. Bring it on!

EDZ649 · 10-06-2009, 10:03 AM

Interesting that they don't have a 'contact us' section on their website. They are happy to give out millions of private mobile numbers but not prepared to give out their own! God help them if they phone me!

The only directory with millions of mobile numbers - 118800

10-06-2009, 01:16 AM	#1
The Boss Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: private! Car: private! Posts: 1,318	THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE Privacy invasion TAKE NOTE: THIS WILL AFFECT EVERYONE.. AND TONIGHT ON LBC, THE MARKETING DIRECTOR STATED THAT SHE WILL FIND A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO OPT OUT FOR FREE VIA THEIR WEBSITE SOON, AS AT MOMENT, IF YOU WANT TO OPT OUT, YOU WILL NEED TO PAY THE TEXT MESSAGE SERVICE FEE OF AROUND £0.15, which is ALOT of our money going into some ones pocket.. and that pocket is not yours!! The upcoming launch of the first mobile phone directory was yesterday attacked as a 'clear invasion of privacy'. Connectivity, the company behind the service, has bought details of 16million phone numbers - around 40 per cent of those in regular use in the UK. It says it will not give out mobile numbers, but instead act as an intermediary to put users in touch with whoever they are searching for. But Nigel Evans MP, the Conservative chairman of the All Party Group on ID Fraud, described the emergence of the new service as 'shocking' and 'depressing'. He said: 'People feel that their mobile phone number is very private to them and should not be traded for profit. 'People will be infuriated if they find they are bombarded with calls from people they don't want or expect to hear from. It is a clear invasion of privacy.' Connectivity has bought its list of mobile numbers from brokers - who themselves have purchased personal details from market research firms and online stores. Individuals will also be able to volunteer to place their numbers with the mobile directory inquiry service, which launches on June 16. Connectivity insists it is 'privacy friendly' because it does not hand over mobile phone numbers to users of the service. Instead, operators will find and dial the target's number and ask whether they are prepared to receive the call. However, Simon Davies of Privacy International - who left the project after working on it as a paid consultant during its early phase - is worried about how the numbers have been collected. 'There are fundamental privacy issues,' he said. 'The company needs to be far more specific about where it acquired the numbers on its directory. Connectivity claims it has been given approval for its service by the Office of the Information Commission. But an ICO spokesman said: 'We made it absolutely clear to Connectivity that they should not use numbers where there was any doubt about whether the consumer was happy for their information to be used in this way.' The chief executive of 118800, Raj Raithatha, yesterday insisted that personal privacy will be protected. He said: 'All searches on 118800.co.uk are via our secure application that doesn't show mobile numbers or names and addresses of individuals. Neither do we give prompts that could disclose personal information.' It is possible to become ex-directory by texting the letter 'E' to 118 800 from your mobile phone. However, this will carry a charge and the change could take several weeks. IF THE GOVERNMENT WANT SOME BROWNIE POINTS FOR BROWN, THEN THEY SHOULD INTERVENE DON'T YA THINK! __________________ The facts expressed in my posts belong to everybody, the opinions belong to me. The distinction is yours to draw Last edited by The Boss; 10-06-2009 at 01:16 AM. Reason: typo

10-06-2009, 01:28 AM	#2
ringway Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Wilmslow Cheshire Car: 2002 S210 320CDI Estate Sliver, Sprinter 313CDI LWB Cryptronic Gearbox! Omega 3.0 Elite Estate Posts: 1,656	Got your number mate! I'll call you later.. __________________ I’m not a doctor, but I’ll take a look. What can happen? Experience. When you are young you don't have it.. When you are old you don't need it..

10-06-2009, 07:02 AM	#5
MrT Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Midlands Car: 2009 W245 B150 SE Posts: 211	And where exactly have they 'bought' the details of these 16m numbers from? __________________ W245 B150 SE Cirrus/Calcite White

10-06-2009, 07:19 AM	#6
lewyboy Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Up on Cripple Creek Car: S320 CDI Posts: 556	So somebody can pay £1 to call my mobile? Knock yourselves out, I couldn't care less. Don't you have to give permission to accept the call? As far as I can se this amounts to nothing, after all it's only your mobile phone and you could always turn it off if people insisited on calling you on it. __________________ I look at my watch it says 09:25 and I think oh God I'm still alive

10-06-2009, 07:54 AM	#7
lynall Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Kent Car: The silver one. Posts: 3,146	Just get another free sim and away you go again, but and its a big but once this starts where will it all stop? anpr cctv it just gets better and better. Lynall __________________ Mine 210.070 Wifes 203.064 Slow S2 1959 Last edited by lynall; 10-06-2009 at 07:56 AM.

10-06-2009, 01:29 AM	#3
Dryce Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,994	Big yawn. How useful is a directory service that charges money and holds a minority of numbers - a proportion of which at any time will churn. I'm much more annoyed with the DVLA that allows cowboy parking companies to access their database.

10-06-2009, 03:58 AM	#4
The G.F.P Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 820	yet another bunch of swines making money from personal details shoot them

10-06-2009, 08:00 AM	#8
Smiley Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,526	Privacy? What is the problem? Think about it - take it to the extreme and your phone number was only known to you - like a PIN number - then how would anyone be able to call you? And how would you be able to call anyone else assuming that their numbers were all private too? The phone would become useless - thats the whole point of it - to contact people. I think it is a good idea as long as it is just name and number, and especially if it is authorised by you. If you have something to hide then ditch the phone.

10-06-2009, 08:39 AM	#11
renault12ts Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Belfast Car: E320CDI w210 estate avantgarde Posts: 2,120	It would be difficult for the Gov. to object on high moral grounds given the levels of invasive data collection that they are and will be undertaking. __________________

10-06-2009, 09:06 AM	#12
corned Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: May 2008 Location: East Mids Car: 2005 mobile reservoir, courtesy of Nottingham M-B and their farmed-out warranty repair work Posts: 1,037	Our phones, including mobiles, are registered with TPS so I would have quite a bit to say if I ever receive a call from these people. Plus a formal complaint to OFCOM as a result.

10-06-2009, 09:19 AM	#13
grober Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Perth SCOTLAND Car: E220 COUPE Posts: 8,020	Deja Vue? Shona Forster, 118800's Marketing Director, was banging on about this on the BBC'S Working Lunch yesterday. I confess I missed most of it but I dare say you can watch it again on the Iplayer. BBC NEWS \| Programmes \| Working Lunch \| Mobile phone directory to launch __________________ Cheers Graeme E220 COUPE auto 96 Last of the Ol 124s

10-06-2009, 09:58 AM	#14
pipmk Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Leeds Car: E320CDI AUTO SPORT W211 Posts: 40	So all those idiots who annoy everyone with their "I'm on the train"and other statements of the glaringly obvious or look like they had their 'phone welded to their head are going to get nuisance calls and get some idea of how B----dy annoying their obsession is to normal people.Perhaps they will then learn to pick a brand of cereal without ringing 10 other people at maximum volume. Bring it on!

10-06-2009, 10:03 AM	#15
EDZ649 Events Committee Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: 1066 Country Car: SL600 V12, 320e, 450 SEL, Mitsubishi L200 Elegance Posts: 1,756	Interesting that they don't have a 'contact us' section on their website. They are happy to give out millions of private mobile numbers but not prepared to give out their own! God help them if they phone me! The only directory with millions of mobile numbers - 118800 __________________ Previous Mercs: 1998 E240 Avantgarde 1999 E280 Avantgarde 2000 E55 AMG 2001 E55 AMG Current Mercs: 1994 SL600 V12, AMG Bodykit, OZ Opera's (394 bhp) 1998 E430 Elegance (279bhp) 1993 320e, AMG Bodykit (217bhp) 1980 450 SEL Project (222bhp) 1999 A140 Elegance, Partner's Car (Nowhere near as much bhp!)

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