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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: near Derby
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Is a AMG c class a supercar brand?
AMG performance is in super car numbers, 0-60 in less than 5 seconds etc... insurance is group 20, warranty companies class AMG in with ferrari, porsche etc, yet C class AMG gets mentioned in the same sentance as BMW M sport cars. personally I don't think of M3s or M5s as supercars so where does that leave AMG? ![]() I'd class an SL AMG as a super car, but a c class AMG? ...I think it is a supercar brand by the way, just a discussion we ended up having in the pub, as you do... |
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Loughborough, UK
Car: C63 AMG Performance Pack Plus
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Its a strange one this as individual perceptions of what a 'Supercar' is will differ greatly.
I'd love to see my C63 as a Supercar but in reality, despite near-Supercar performance, it is ultimately just a very fast, expensive and well engineered C-Class. A car who's basic design is similar to a £25k C180. Therefore, no matter how outrageous it is, I couldn't see it as a genuine supercar....it's just not exotic enough. Indeed, before my C63 I owned a BMW M6 which really did have supercar-bashing performance - I remember a brand new Aston DBS being no quicker and thats currently Aston's finest! It was also very nicely made, had a wonderful leather and alcantara interior but again, I never really saw it as a Supercar...again, I'll say that word and say that it just wasn't exotic enough. Also, before buying my new C63, I did look at an Aston V8 Vantage and that looked like a Supercar and it had that 'sense of occasion' about it....indeed, that was a car that really was exotic! But, as anyone who read the posts about my experience will know, it just wasn't as good a car as the much more ordinary C63 - indeed, a C63 would annihilate 4.3 V8 Vantage in terms of performance, build quality and probably overall engineering integrity. |
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Whilst both are superb motor cars, in my opinion neither should be classed as "supercars" for a number of reasons, firstly performance quick yes but not when compared to something like a Bentley Continental GT, Maclaren SLR or something like an F50 ferrari or indeed most of the Lamborghini's and secondly down to exclusivity
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I agree with Palmball. AMGs offer near supercar performance, but aren't necessarily supercars. The one exception being the SLS.
To be a true supercar then there are two main criteria IMHO: The car must have been designed to be a supercar, not mainstream. The car must have featured in at least three posters from Athena with black/red, black/black, or black/white colour schemes, and hung on bedroom walls of at least 50% of the UK population of boys under 16.
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Supercars, like Superstars need to be prima donnas, arriving late for the show a bit drunk but still looking fabulous.
The C63 is just too well behaved.
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A supercar just is. Like the definition of art versus pornography, you know it when you see it.
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Agree with the others - I don't think any of the current/recent AMG cars are supercars at all.
The SLS - possibly close, and I guess the SLR are the only contenders that spring to mind? In fact - looking away from MB, not sure that there's many (any?) regular saloon cars that you'd call supercars. It's not just the performance figures that make a supercar. IMHO ![]() Will |
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Agree with all the above. I'd love a C63 or C55, but ultimately it's still just a C Class.
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Definitely not a supercar. A super car, but not a supercar
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It is nearly a supercar in terms of performance. At the end of the day it is just a very fast Saloon.
IMHO i would say it is the next level down from supercars which isnt too bad!! Cannot wait to have mine. I was looking at a Porsche as an alternative to getting a C63 and decided that the C63 brought more to the table in alot of ways. I will one day get a Porsche (fingers crossed) but with owning one i feel i will always need a second car where as with a C63 I dont. |
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I believe technically the SLR would be a hypercar*, if you use the 200mph rule of thumb. Or the "it costs how bloody much?" one.
(*) Carrera GT, Enzo, Zonda, that lot. I've seen it said a few times the AMG C Class' are more of a muscle car than anything else, I'm quite happy with that characterisation - mass produced saloon with something special hidden in it and a V8 soundtrack...
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my c63 feels like a supercar every time i drive it but as above its only a super car
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I don't think a supercar is, or should be, practical! When I think of supercars, I think of outrageous sports cars - unreliable (probably), extremely fast (usually), stunning to look at - the type of car that makes you stop and stare when you see one! Based on that, an AMG C Class cannot be a "supercar", but it is as Gareth said, a super car!
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palmball when do you get your new toy ?
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Agree with several of the posters here. I love my C55 and I love it's 'super' performance, but I don't consider it as a 'supercar'. C55s are Q cars - most people probably wouldn't be able to tell it apart from a regular C Class. And that's the issue - to be a 'supercar' it has to stand out from the crowd. Consider your typical supercar over the years - Lambos, Ferraris, Astons etc - they all stand out as such.
That's not to say that there aren't any AMGs that aren't supercars - as someone has already mentioned -the SLS should be classed as one. |
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