Missing Chairman??

[grober]

Whatever happened to the Ssangyong Chairman? Did it ever make to the UK?
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/sp..._chairman.html

[recycled]

Does anyone know what generation of merc engines and gearboxes are in the rexton 11 ssangyong.
help i am trying to convince the wife that having a mercedes engine does not make it a mercedes

[Dieselman]

recycled, the engines are recent engines such as 2.7Cdi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SsangYong_Rexton

[grober]

AFAIK the only engine available in the UK for the Rexton 2 is the 5 cylinder 2.7 turbodiesel 163bhp with a 5 speed autobox. Both are based on mercedes designs but manufactured in Korea.

[recycled]

so can they be serviced by a merc dealer?. the showroom here is so drab it looks like a tea break area.
they are made in korea will they go bang? I just thought they bought it from merc and installed the lump into the rexton.
thers is also one with 186 hp.
it is so specced up and so cheap they must have made some savings somewhere else and i am afraid it may be the part i can not see

[Dieselman]

Originally Posted by recycled

so can they be serviced by a merc dealer?. the showroom here is so drab it looks like a tea break area.
they are made in korea will they go bang? I just thought they bought it from merc and installed the lump into the rexton.
thers is also one with 186 hp.
it is so specced up and so cheap they must have made some savings somewhere else and i am afraid it may be the part i can not see

I'd get it seviced at the Rexton dealer..be cheaper..

The engines are built under licence but apaer to be as good. They used to build the old 2.9 Sprinter unit for the Musso and they never went wrong.

[grober]

Some of the Korean 4x4 's get quite a good rep for reliability if not for refinement! The Kia Sorento came top of its class for JD POWER customer satisfaction for 2years and the new Hyundai 2.2turbodiesel Santa Fe gets good write up also. The problem with KOREAN 4X4s is that as soon as a model gets a decent write up in the press and demand grows the importers jack up the price which tends to defeat the "value for money" argument.

[crockers]

Originally Posted by recycled

so can they be serviced by a merc dealer?. the showroom here is so drab it looks like a tea break area.
they are made in korea will they go bang? I just thought they bought it from merc and installed the lump into the rexton.
thers is also one with 186 hp.
it is so specced up and so cheap they must have made some savings somewhere else and i am afraid it may be the part i can not see

Yes its called labour rates..... about a tenth of what a European earns....

Plus plastics are low rate....but...Japanese cars were laughed at 30-40 years ago....

[recycled]

Originally Posted by crockers

Plus plastics are low rate....but...Japanese cars were laughed at 30-40 years ago....

That is true.
now everyone wants them.
Did merc not own mitsubishi at one point?

[grober]

Originally Posted by recycled

That is true.
now everyone wants them.
Did merc not own mitsubishi at one point?

You are correct. This from Wikipedia:

DaimlerChrysler-Mitsubishi alliance

Two years after the merger of Daimler and Chrysler to form DCX, the U.S.-German conglomerate paid US$1.9 billion for a controlling 34 percent of MMC, in an effort to fulfil chairman Jürgen Schrempp's vision of a "Welt AG" ("world corporation"). The price reflected a US$200 million discount on the originally agreed figure, caused by the public disclosure of the defect cover-up scandal. In March 2001 it increased its stake to 37.3 percent when it acquired Volvo's stake in MMC's truck-making operations, further boosting Mercedes' share of a market it already dominated. However, boardroom wrangles at DCX prevented them offering financial assistance as Mitsubishi attempted to reduce its crippling debts.[22] When a US$4 billion rescue package was agreed with Tokyo-based Phoenix Capital in May 2004, DCX's stake was reduced to 23 percent, and further recapitalisations subsequently diluted the holding to 12.4 percent. Finally, on November 11, 2005, the remaining stock was sold for US$1.1 billion — an US$800 million loss in five years.[23] Three days later the buyer, investment bank Goldman Sachs sold the shares on for US$80 million profit.[24]

New major stockholder Phoenix Capital followed suit the following month, selling all but 50 million of its 575 million shares to JPMorgan on December 9, 2005. Once again, the investment bank offloaded their purchase within a few days for tens of millions in profit. In both cases, the eventual buyers were part of the Mitsubishi keiretsu, returning MMC to Japanese ownership.


There was also this Smart link with an ex Volvo plant in HOLLAND.

Mitsubishi participated in a joint venture with rival car-maker Volvo and the Dutch government at the former DAF plant in Born in 1991. The operation, branded NedCar, began producing the first generation Mitsubishi Carisma alongside the Volvo S40/V40 in 1996. and later this with D/C
the Mitsubishi Colt and Smart Forfour superminis, although DaimlerChrysler has now cancelled production of the Smart Forfour.


There was also the development of the current range of Mercedes 4 cylinder petrol engines in a joint venture with D/C. The Mitsubishi 4B1 engine is the newest range of all-alloy straight-4 engines built at Mitsubishi's Japanese "World Engine" powertrain plant in Shiga on the basis of the Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance (GEMA). Although the basic designs of the various engines are the same, their exact specifications are individually tailored for each partner. What's happened to this since the D/C breakup I don't know? http://media.mitsubishi-motors.com/p...detail156.html
Interesting that the engine in the current small Mercedes is possibly from the same "gene-pool " as the lancer EVO!!

[Carrotchomper]

Originally Posted by recycled

That is true.
now everyone wants them.

Recycled, my new best buddy..

Did I mention my Honda?