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Old 10-12-2016, 08:47 PM   #16
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They will have to ban most of the trains into Marylebone and Paddington Station, as they are mostly diesel.
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Old 10-12-2016, 08:52 PM   #17
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Diesel is the latest whipping boy.
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Old 10-12-2016, 08:58 PM   #18
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Diesel is the latest whipping boy.
Nope, petrol is next.

EDIT: sorry I misread, I thought you wrote last. Yes you're correct.

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Old 10-12-2016, 10:47 PM   #19
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Would it not be cheaper to issue free masks as they do in China etc ? the Government could save Londoners whilst the rest of the Country die of emphysema
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:28 PM   #20
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No, those masks might stop droplets but they wouldn't filter diesel particulates.
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:30 PM   #21
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Ultra low emission zone: New black taxis must run on electric batteries from 2018, TfL confirms | London Evening Standard
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:31 PM   #22
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https://www.london.gov.uk/press-rele...ric-bus-routes
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:32 PM   #23
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"The new rules only apply to taxis being licensed for the first time."

That'll make all the difference then.....
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:40 PM   #24
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"The new rules only apply to taxis being licensed for the first time."

That'll make all the difference then.....
Yes it will... in 2045 or thereabouts.
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Old 11-12-2016, 07:30 AM   #25
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Diesel is the latest whipping boy.
So that's why the diesel owners are squealing!
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Old 11-12-2016, 08:09 AM   #26
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Politicians are looking at the growing list of reports that point the finger at pollution including diesel and wondering what will happen if they turn out to be true. Could they be chased by journalists and lawyers in the future asking awkward questions about why they did nothing when there was information in the public domain that the health of thousands of people was being affected?

I'm sure some of them want cleaner cities as well.
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Old 11-12-2016, 09:43 AM   #27
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There would have to be a massive effort by the government to establish a charging infrastructure for electric cars. Next question how abundant is lithium and it's cost to mine.
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Old 11-12-2016, 10:13 AM   #28
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There would have to be a massive effort by the government to establish a charging infrastructure for electric cars....
This the real con when it comes to pure EVs. Everyone knows that it will never take-off without a UK-wide charging infrastructure which at current no one is willing to pay for, and yet somehow the government keeps telling us that it's the future, ignoring the missing link.

So for now Teslas are the preserve of those wealthy enough to have a garage or drive with a private charging point, and a second diesel car for when they need to make long journeys.

But for those of us who live in flats and city centres, pure EV is nothing more than a faraway dream.

I am all in favour of HS2, yet I can't help wondering if the 40bn earmarked for the project won't be better spent on nuclear power stationd and a national charging infrastructure for EVs.

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Old 11-12-2016, 10:23 AM   #29
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All diesels will be banned from London, except those being used for, by or on behalf of the local authorities.

As with everything, exceptions are created. For example, diesel for agricultural use is Duty exempt, even though they pollute the atmosphere just as much, if not more, than modern Euro 6 engines found in cars. I actually build diesel powered generators and lighting rigs that are not Euro X compliant because of their exemption from the rules.

Local authorities expect us to follow their rules, yet they won't enforce their rules on their own staff. How many bin lorries contravene the Highway Code? Probably all of them. They stop where they like. They use their Hazard lights continuously. They pull out into the flow of moving traffic as if they have priority (this also applies to buses).
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Old 11-12-2016, 10:32 AM   #30
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All diesels will be banned from London, except those being used for, by or on behalf of the local authorities....
How odd.

You would have thought that the electric car revolution will start by government and local authorities being the first to ban fossil fuel vehicles among their fleets?

On a similar note... if am ever elected mayor, I would ease congestion by stipulating that no local authority fleet cars (or their contractors) should be driven on public roads between 8am and 9am - and this includes bin lorries.
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