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Old 24-11-2016, 07:26 PM   #16
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Diesel exhausts need to be genuinely cleaned up, including lorries buses and trains.
They are way way cleaner than they used to be.

I think people forget how common it used to be to have diesel vans and buses belching thick grey clouds of fumes and particulates.

Plus when you were in a pub, restaurant or train you used to be in a fog of cigarette smoke.
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Old 24-11-2016, 07:30 PM   #17
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In my case I bought a diesel for a number of reasons.

1. I needed raised ground clearance - an SUV if you like, albeit only 2 wheel drive. Petrol options are near enough nil. Hybrid's don't have the range to do 600 miles in a day.
2. I don't believe the statistics. Everyone seem's to have an axe to grind. All of these groups tend to be funded by someone with a stake in the outcome. It is impossible to judge for one's self.
3. If it was that bad it would be banned. I'm assuming that modern diesels are far cleaner than they were 20 years ago. (Actually we can tell this from the smoke from the exhaust).
4. Economy. Makes a difference over 30k a year.
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Old 24-11-2016, 07:38 PM   #18
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I own a 3.0 litre V6 ML but if i could buy a 3.0 litre V6 petrol i would. In the MB SUV market it used to be either a 3.0 litre diesel or a 5.5 litre petrol. Now that the GLC 43AMG is out i might consider one.
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Old 24-11-2016, 07:48 PM   #19
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I bought a diesel as a legal way of killing off people
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Old 24-11-2016, 08:07 PM   #20
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If you are buying diesel, then new (with new car warranty) is the only way to go.

A member here was quoted 3k repair for a B-Class just out of warranty because the flaps in the intake manifold broke.... MB UK offered 10% goodwill contribution because the car had full dealer service history... scarey stuff.

And you don't want to know the cost of a new diesel pump... or misrefueling (which is not covered by warranty anyway).
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Old 24-11-2016, 08:08 PM   #21
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^ what he said!


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Old 24-11-2016, 08:30 PM   #22
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If you are buying diesel, then new (with new car warranty) is the only way to go.

A member here was quoted 3k repair for a B-Class just out of warranty because the flaps in the intake manifold broke.... MB UK offered 10% goodwill contribution because the car had full dealer service history... scarey stuff.

And you don't want to know the cost of a new diesel pump... or misrefueling (which is not covered by warranty anyway).
Modern Petrol's are getting just as complex...
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Old 24-11-2016, 08:43 PM   #23
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Regarding the original post there doesn't seem to be a lot, or maybe not enough, of press coverage advising people of potential health risks associated with diesels. So why would they be any the wiser. This is a car forum and there are articles and opinions posted but if you not particularly interested in cars other than as transport information on particulates etc doesn't seem very frequent.
The brochures for new diesel cars followed by salespeople tell you how clean they are.
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Old 24-11-2016, 08:49 PM   #24
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Just got home to find a TB from Nissan telling us to get the QQ 1.5dci to them ASAP for a fix as they have identified / been found out an overheating issue that may damage the DPF (the software is missing a logic step on the thermal diagnostics)

It's a very common car with an extremely common multi badge engine, so I am surprised, but the doomsayers have been warning us about 7 or 8 year old modern diesels.....

It will be our last diesel - a hybrid next (though I will hang onto the V6 CLK for a bit longer...)

PS why did we buy a diesel car?

Choice (lack of), a poor petrol alternative for what SWMBO wanted and then economy.
Yes it's a pollutant, but EU5 is pretty good
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Old 24-11-2016, 09:22 PM   #25
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Old 24-11-2016, 10:38 PM   #26
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I don't buy new and don't have diesels any more. Luckily I don't do many miles now so cost is less of a factor. I just got bored with the boom & bust delivery of the modern diesel powered engines. All or nothing even in many newer twin turbo guises.

I say Petrol V8's all the way 😉

Many diesels are being mis-sold as not suitable for short journeys, local journey or lower mileage. The particulates are obviously worse as we don't have DPF's on Petrol cars. I stopped trusting the govt, politicians, statistics as they all lie. When we get real stats and the truth then maybe we can make some decent informed decisions.

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Old 25-11-2016, 12:02 AM   #28
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One morning George, public officer, noticed that his first neighbour Mike have parked a shiny brand new, silver diesel car. George thought that it is a good idea to lease one diesel car him self, thinking if it's good for sale rep Mike who drives 50k miles pa in a company diesel car it must be good for George too and his school runs, trips to Tesco, GP and twice a year Spain and France.
7 days later George made his first school run in a shiny silver diesel car. George was happy.
(George has a wife Matilda and Matilda loves SUVs but that is another story)
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Old 25-11-2016, 12:24 AM   #29
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Modern Petrol's are getting just as complex...
Well my other car is a Kia Diesel.... with 7 years warranty
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Old 25-11-2016, 06:49 AM   #30
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I blame Maggie, she kicked it all off! No it's true, go and buy a green diesel she said and then we'll make the price of diesel the same as petrol!
And so it happened and and everyone lived moaning ever after. And so endeth the lesson.
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