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Old 19-11-2016, 12:44 PM   #16
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The W210 is a very good car, but I don't think it's the right car for you. Based upon your posts you seem to have many reservations, and if you buy one, that's likely to become paranoia. Find another car, there are plenty of good ones out there.
Well, my reservations come from its very bad reputation. I would have zero reservations for example if I was thinking of a W124.

So I think my reservations are well justified, wouldn't you say?
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Old 19-11-2016, 12:45 PM   #17
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Well, my reservations come from its very bad reputation. I would have zero reservations for example if I was thinking of a W124.

So I think my reservations are well justified, wouldn't you say?
They are justified...just can't understand why you are even considering one.
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I'd actually rather own a late 210 than an early 211. However, both are originally expensive cars with numerous things that can and will go wrong at this stage in their lives.

Having just run a 1999 Honda Accord coupe for six entirely trouble free months which cost me the grand total of a grand, my instinct is that for the same money I'd go for that over an ageing Benz.

My 210 (which had been heavily cherished) needed a new heater control panel, new MAF, new airbag, new clock spring, evaporator, rear shocks, rear spheres and numerous bits of minor rust dealt with. This is after the previous owner had replaced the PSE pump (they fill with water if the front drains get blocked), new injectors, new glowplugs, new bonnet, wings and tailgate. Great car when it ran well, but it is of that era when electronics are not great and are starting now to fail.
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Old 19-11-2016, 12:46 PM   #19
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Well, my reservations come from its very bad reputation. I would have zero reservations for example if I was thinking of a W124.

So I think my reservations are well justified, wouldn't you say?
I've owned four W124s. I have serious reservations now about those!
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Old 19-11-2016, 12:47 PM   #20
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It is quite difficult to unbolt the rear arches though...wouldn't you agree?
Most certainly. Having said that though, they are not too difficult to cut out and repair properly. It's all about finding the right one in the first place.
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Well, my reservations come from its very bad reputation. I would have zero reservations for example if I was thinking of a W124.

So I think my reservations are well justified, wouldn't you say?
But you're the person looking to buy one, so if your reservations are justified, buy something else.
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The W210 unfortunately was manufactured during a period when Mercedes suffered from paint and body problems - rumours of inferior Russian sourced steel to Mercedes still struggling with newer water based paint systems and lack of galvanising meant these cars have a deserved reputation for rust problems in most European countries. Like many old Benzes you will still find them doing sterling service in countries with predominatly hot arid climates where their body finish is unchallenged. The later W211 is a better bet [ altho its far more complicated electronically] best sampled in post 2006 facelift form with better paintwork and minus SBC brakes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merced..._E-Class_(W211)
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Old 19-11-2016, 12:57 PM   #23
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I've had two W210 220cdi's. One on 340,000 miles. Did 5k in it without spending a penny. A friend then had it and put 10k on it with just a set of brake pads and a service.

The second had 180,000 miles and just needed a water pump.

Good cars from my experience and both drove better than my 2006 CLK Sport again with the 220cdi.

Must admit though both were rusty...

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The problem is everybody I'm speaking with are saying the same as renault12ts said. I won't find one without rust.
Well as you're the one looking to buy one maybe best you actually go out and start looking at W210 including one's not for sale, that imo is the best way to dismiss one as a purchase. It's not easy and it takes time as I already mentioned, no matter what the car. Been there and worn the t-shirt and like a fool I'm still looking for a particular car (non Merc) since last Feb/April. It's all about perseverance and luck.

Or buy another Ford, the Mondeo is a cracking car and they're not to be sniffed at, plus there's a massive selection.
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Old 19-11-2016, 01:04 PM   #25
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They are justified...just can't understand why you are even considering one.
Yeah. Well, I guess I was hoping that people would say the reputation was not deserved and it was not nearly as bad or something.
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Well, my reservations come from its very bad reputation. I would have zero reservations for example if I was thinking of a W124.

So I think my reservations are well justified, wouldn't you say?
I really don't know why you are even considerig one. I have owned a few and mechanically they have been superb. You do have to be very careful with the body and I posted my current one which is low mileage and virtually zero rust.
The one before that was bought with a 12 month mot and was a rot box when I started to lok carefully (s0mething I should have done before I bought it). It taught me a lot though and was a source of many parts.
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Old 19-11-2016, 01:13 PM   #27
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I've had two W210 220cdi's. One on 340,000 miles. Did 5k in it without spending a penny. A friend then had it and put 10k on it with just a set of brake pads and a service.

The second had 180,000 miles and just needed a water pump.

Good cars from my experience and both drove better than my 2006 CLK Sport again with the 220cdi.

Must admit though both were rusty...
This is the thing. If you don't care about the rust I'm sure you can drive it till it falls apart. It will take a while till rust stops a car from being drivable.
If you lucky enough no electrical problems engine related get in the way I guess they would keep driving with or without rust. But this is not a car I want to deal with then.

So I guess you chaps have confirmed and convinced me the W210 is just not for me.
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I'd actually rather own a late 210 than an early 211. However, both are originally expensive cars with numerous things that can and will go wrong at this stage in their lives.

Having just run a 1999 Honda Accord coupe for six entirely trouble free months which cost me the grand total of a grand, my instinct is that for the same money I'd go for that over an ageing Benz.

My 210 (which had been heavily cherished) needed a new heater control panel, new MAF, new airbag, new clock spring, evaporator, rear shocks, rear spheres and numerous bits of minor rust dealt with. This is after the previous owner had replaced the PSE pump (they fill with water if the front drains get blocked), new injectors, new glowplugs, new bonnet, wings and tailgate. Great car when it ran well, but it is of that era when electronics are not great and are starting now to fail.
Like I said I would like a large 4 door saloon with RWD or AWD. Hondas are FWD only.

I can't afford a late W211.

So I guess I would be better off then with something like an Omega? As large as an E Class, luxury enough for me and they don't have the bad reputation the W210 has. The V6s are quite quick too.

Sure it's not a Merc and it's a Vauxhall. But it costs quite less to buy and to maintain. And we have a Ford and a Vauxhall now and the Vauxhall is 15 years old and passed the last MOT without any problems and has no body rust at all.

I guess a reliable Vauxhall is better than a rotten Mercedes?
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Yeah. Well, I guess I was hoping that people would say the reputation was not deserved and it was not nearly as bad or something.
They're very good cars with a bad reputation. Rust and electrical issues when the cars were relatively new earned the car a poor reputation, but now the car is older and much much cheaper to buy, the issues are more in keeping with what you might expect.

The W210 will be a superior car to almost every other car in the same price bracket, but it's at an age whereby it's getting older but has all of the cost and complexity of a modern car, and so things will brake, and it will be expensive to repair (relative to the value of the car).

Buy it expecting it to be perfectly reliable, immaculately finished, and hewn from granite, and you'll be disappointed. Buy it expecting that it will have some issues, which will be more expensive to repair than you're expecting, and enjoy luxury motoring at a relatively low cost.

Good luck whatever you choose to do.
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Like I said I would like a large 4 door saloon with RWD or AWD. Hondas are FWD only.

I can't afford a late W211.

So I guess I would be better off then with something like an Omega? As large as an E Class, luxury enough for me and they don't have the bad reputation the W210 has. The V6s are quite quick too.

Sure it's not a Merc and it's a Vauxhall. But it costs quite less to buy and to maintain. And we have a Ford and a Vauxhall now and the Vauxhall is 15 years old and passed the last MOT without any problems and has no body rust at all.

I guess a reliable Vauxhall is better than a rotten Mercedes?
Omegas are fantastic cars, but you'll need look to find a good one now. Sadly, they too are known for rusting. Find a good MV6 and you'll be delighted.

Interestingly we chose the Omega over a W210 too.
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