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Old 30-06-2012, 07:12 PM   #1
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Are W211 diesels that bad?

I'm was looking to update my trusty V plate W210 3.0TD. by about 5-6 years.

The mechanic who has looked after my Mercs for years tells me the 211 is very unreliable, and that lots of 320 diesels came in for injectors after 70k and they have all sorts of expensive and irritating problems. He says they are very unreliable and expensive compared to my 210 (with SA built c class even worse!).

He advised me to wait and go for a post 06 car and if I had to change get something else for a while.

I know he looks after them everyday but are they really that bad ?
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Old 30-06-2012, 07:15 PM   #2
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If he thinks the W210 is a 'better' car than a W211, I'm afraid there's no hope for him (and I do like W210's).

Is this mechanic a Mercedes or German specialist?
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Old 30-06-2012, 07:21 PM   #4
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Welcome back to the forum.

The 300TD is bomb proof properly, but an I6 E320cdi, I5 E270cdi and I4 E220cdi pre and post facelifted are very reliable.

The injectors are a dog apparently to remove on a 300TD.

There are occasionally issues with the I6, the I5 and I4 with Mafs, the odd injector but as engines go, these are damned reliable.

The V6, well, it makes up more forum space than the others for both good and bad reasons....
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Old 30-06-2012, 07:49 PM   #5
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My 2004 s211 320 CDi was faultless.
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Old 30-06-2012, 08:00 PM   #6
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I've a 211 E270cdi for the last 18 months put 20000 on the clock, mostly stop start driving in east London and apart from the usual service items not a thing has gone wrong with it and everything still works. Good cars
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W211 E280 V6 CDI here, I've done approx 27,000 miles in almost 4 years and no problems really worth mentioning.
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Old 30-06-2012, 08:07 PM   #8
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+1 for the I6 E320Cdi

Very little to fault it since new and currently 136K miles
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Old 30-06-2012, 08:24 PM   #9
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I had a 2003 W211 E320 CDi.

It forced open a large hole in my pocket and drained my wallet repeatedly. In hindsight I wonder about the genuineness of it's mileage.
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Old 01-07-2012, 01:47 AM   #10
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Hi Guys

Thanks for that, he's German specialist but worked for Merc previously.

I thought they couldn't be that bad I've had e class diesels for a long time now and and fancy a 320CDI, as I like the straight 6.

I'll start looking and see whats about, no doubt I'll need advice as usual!

I'll probably keep the 300td as a second car though as its only done 150K, the body's still ok and its probably not worth a lot now.

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Old 01-07-2012, 08:02 AM   #12
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I had an E270CDi for a 10 months and 12k miles. Bought it with a rear door module faulty (£52 to fix fitting myself) and needed to replace a front transverse arm (very rattly!) fitted for £75. Other than a service, that was it.

Father has had a 2004 E320Cdi IL6 from new. A few niggly problems (mostly sorted under warranty), a front spring went overnight and had both transverse arms replaced (warranty). Other than that, no issues.
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Old 01-07-2012, 08:30 AM   #13
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+1 for the I6 E320Cdi

Very little to fault it since new and currently 136K miles
Ditto. 144000 on mine. Door locks, a couple of front ball joints, and recently an alternator regulator are all the faults I can think of. I6 engine will pull your socks off, and the rest.

I got mine 'Starred' on Friday and was discussing it's replacement with the techie. Couldn't think of anything that came anywhere near it.

If it's an early 03 model you need to check the history for the dreaded Valeo radiator change and it would be a big bonus if the SBC brake unit has been replaced.
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Old 01-07-2012, 08:33 AM   #14
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The 300TD is bomb proof properly.

The injectors are a dog apparentlyto remove on a 300TD.

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Really? Do tell.






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Old 01-07-2012, 08:46 AM   #15
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Thanks for that, he's German specialist but worked for Merc previously.
Whereabouts are you in Gods own county? I'm in Doncaster if you want to have a look/drive of my W211.
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