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Old 15-04-2012, 09:33 AM   #16
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I know them very well. I work for Mercedes in Parts and we use them on daily basis. The reason why I ask for this (I guess there is no way not to say about this) is I want to be a salesman and I want to know how drivers see those vehicles so I could possibly use this if I get this job.

I got great passion for Mercedes and this does help to talk/sell or work for Mercedes cars. But here we are talking about commercial vehicle which on some occasions pretend to be a car.

I do like them myself for space, simplicty and relability (those are my opinions) and I would love to drive well speced Traveliner on daily basis but how other Merc drivers persive this type of vehicle. MPV or VAN?

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OK my view. People view the Traveliner as a minibus (not a van or MPV). I think 99% of them would be bought by commercial users - anyone else would get a Viano instead.

The Dualiner is a bit different - I think quite a few of those are bought by private individuals to use as genuine 'multi purpose vehicles'. Essentially it's an estate car with a huge boot area which you can use for transporting things like mountain bikes etc. (or in our case, dogs). Even with the rear of ours caged out for the dogs it's very versatile - I brought nearly a tonne of floor tiles home from Wickes, simply by flipping the centre row seats up. Similarly I've taken an old dishwasher and built-in oven/grill to the tip without having to remove the middle row seating (and yes the Vito fits under the height barrier there, as it goes into multi-storey car parks OK).

And as commented, particularly with the V6 engine and auto gearbox it's really very nice to drive (and surprisingly quick).
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Old 15-04-2012, 10:30 AM   #17
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I don't class my dualiner as a van.

As BTB says, it is more a dual purpose vehicle and apart from a little rust on the tailgate in the chrome trim area and a blocked DPF (this can happen to make of deisel vehicle) I'm very satisfied with my Vito. As already mentioned, the 120 V6CDI is a very capable performer.

That said, my experience with the Mercedes-Benz anti-corrosion warranty has been a bitter one.
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Old 15-04-2012, 12:51 PM   #18
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Ringway... would you buy one, one more time?

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Ringway... would you buy one, one more time?

Yes, unless BMW or another manufacturer come up with something close to the standard of V6CDI.
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What others see bad things compared to other manufactures?
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Old 15-04-2012, 02:28 PM   #22
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What others see bad things compared to other manufactures?

Unfair customer service.

This has cost MB money from me, though. Not that they will miss my service custom, but I derive saftisfaction from abstaining from using their workshops.
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Brand new and pound for pound against other vans, they are overpriced by about 10k.

In a commercial vehicle mpg is a big factor and it's an area that Mercedes fail miserably; a 639 109 or 111 (the 115 is laughable) 2.2 CDi does about 20mpg round town whereas a Vivaro 1.9 DTi does 30mpg with ease.

If I was to fly up and down the motorway all year and someone else was paying the fuel bill, I'd buy one. For anything else I'd buy the Vivaro.
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Old 15-04-2012, 03:39 PM   #24
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Brand new and pound for pound against other vans, they are overpriced by about 10k.
How do you work that out? The 639 Vito starts at 17,420 (110 CDI - 95 bhp). Not many new panel vans around for 7k ...

Can't see any prices for the Vivaro (for example) on the Vauxhall website, but it says "Starting from 18,848.33". The Vivaro is only 88 bhp, so not even a direct comparison.
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How do you work that out? The 639 Vito starts at 17,420 (110 CDI - 95 bhp). Not many new panel vans around for 7k ...

Can't see any prices for the Vivaro (for example) on the Vauxhall website, but it says "Starting from 18,848.33". The Vivaro is only 88 bhp, so not even a direct comparison.
We've been here before Bill.

List prices mean diddly, a pre reg Vivaro is about 10-11k and a pre reg Vito is around 20k.
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a pre reg Vito is around 20k.
Pre-reg 2012 Vito 110 Long, 14,800 direct from M-B

Used 2012 Mercedes-Benz Vans Vito in town GB UK for sale

Pre-reg 2012 Vito 110 Sportline, 14,995 direct from M-B

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I'd buy a VW Caravelle rather than a Vito.

Yes it's still a van with windows BUT a much better van with windows.

Only my personal choice.
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I'd buy a VW Caravelle rather than a Vito.

Yes it's still a van with windows BUT a much better van with windows.

Only my personal choice.
The Caravelle costs far more than any Vito - you should be comparing it with the Viano, which is the equivalent M-B.

It's also only available with a 4-cyl 1.9 litre engine, which would rule it out for me I'm afraid (much as I like the VW).
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I'd buy a VW Caravelle rather than a Vito.

Yes it's still a van with windows BUT a much better van with windows.

Only my personal choice.
Yes but then it would need to compare to Viano instead of Vito.

At this point that raise the question why do we buy Mercs? They always will be far more expensive then others manufactures but that didnt stop people in a past to find money to buy Merc. How is it today?
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Pre-reg 2012 Vito 110 Long, 14,800 direct from M-B

Used 2012 Mercedes-Benz Vans Vito in town GB UK for sale

Pre-reg 2012 Vito 110 Sportline, 14,995 direct from M-B

Used 2012 Mercedes-Benz Vans Vito in town GB UK for sale

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I stand corrected, Mercedes must have brought their prices down since the last time I looked at their pre-reg vans.

Having looked around you can buy a brand new Vivaro for 11,795; Vauxhall Vivaro SWB SPORTIVE 115 PS - Only Vans
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