differences between c180 and c200? - MBClub UK

Sir Chumpalot · 14-10-2010, 11:07 PM

hi there all,

Just wondered what the difference was between the c180 and c200? i have just recently bought a c200, but is is a 1.8 engine? was just a little confused, any help please?

Thanks, James

markjay · 14-10-2010, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir Chumpalot

hi there all,

Just wondered what the difference was between the c180 and c200? i have just recently bought a c200, but is is a 1.8 engine? was just a little confused, any help please?

Thanks, James

That depends on the year...

Kompressor?

Some more details will help.

Is it W202 (up to 1999)?

If W203 (1999-2007) then early C200 were 2 litre, later all 4-cyl petrol cars i.e. C180/C200/C230 were 1.8L... newer W204 (2007-) did even better, with some late BlueEfficiency C180 having 1.6L engine... so need to know model and year.

But with MB the numbers do not mean anything really.... C320 and C350 have 3.0L engines for example... so quite possible that your C200 has 1.8L engine.

nigel cross · 14-10-2010, 11:18 PM

What does the log book say on it?

steve333 · 15-10-2010, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Chumpalot

hi there all,

Just wondered what the difference was between the c180 and c200? i have just recently bought a c200, but is is a 1.8 engine? was just a little confused, any help please?

Thanks, James

I had a 2005 c180 kompressor,the c-classes of that year c180,c200,c230 were all 1.8ltr supercharged the only difference being slightly increased bhp between each not sure by how much exactly but i'm sure someone else on here will know

Sir Chumpalot · 15-10-2010, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by markjay

That depends on the year...

Kompressor?

Some more details will help.

Is it W202 (up to 1999)?

If W203 (1999-2007) then early C200 were 2 litre, later all 4-cyl petrol cars i.e. C180/C200/C230 were 1.8L... newer W204 (2007-) did even better, with some late BlueEfficiency C180 having 1.6L engine... so need to know model and year.

But with MB the numbers do not mean anything really.... C320 and C350 have 3.0L engines for example... so quite possible that your C200 has 1.8L engine.

I have a 54 plate, c200 kompressor. my first merc, upgraded from a fiesta

its petrol too, but kinda thinkin now that i should have gone for diesel as fuel seems to go very quick !

GP801 · 15-10-2010, 10:08 AM

Most likely to be 1.8 litres

steve333 · 15-10-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir Chumpalot

I have a 54 plate, c200 kompressor. my first merc, upgraded from a fiesta

its petrol too, but kinda thinkin now that i should have gone for diesel as fuel seems to go very quick !

I averaged about 31mpg(mixed town/urban driving)in my c180 kompressor,so you should get about the same

markjay · 15-10-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir Chumpalot

I have a 54 plate, c200 kompressor. my first merc, upgraded from a fiesta

its petrol too, but kinda thinkin now that i should have gone for diesel as fuel seems to go very quick !

C200K then - that would be the M271 engine with 1.8L capacity.

See also here:

M271 Engine tuning

The C180K had essentially the same engine as the C200K, but the one on the C200K was tuned for more bhp - 163bhp for the C200k as opposed to just 143bhp for the C180K. The C230K with the same engine was tuned to 193bhp.

Consequently fuel consumption for the C200K suffers compared to the C180K.

But it's a lovely car, and goes quite fast considering it's weight (~1.5t) and rather small 1.8L engine.

I do like mine

withey · 15-10-2010, 03:41 PM

Could I tune my C180k to be more like a C200K?

What affect would that have on the fuel consumption?

kwakdonut · 15-10-2010, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by withey

Could I tune my C180k to be more like a C200K?

What affect would that have on the fuel consumption?

A remap might improve efficiency and increase power. As for economy, a lot of that is down to your driving style!

markjay · 15-10-2010, 03:56 PM

As far as I know the C200K has higher kompressor pressure plus lower compression ratio than the C180K.

So it is not practical to convert a 180K engine to 200K engine as the cylinder head will have to be changed (or perhaps a thicker head gasket used?) and the kompressor replaced (or at least the pulley). It is still possible to get a bit more power from the C180K, but not convert it to 100% C200K.

14-10-2010, 11:07 PM	#1
Sir Chumpalot Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 104	differences between c180 and c200? hi there all, Just wondered what the difference was between the c180 and c200? i have just recently bought a c200, but is is a 1.8 engine? was just a little confused, any help please? Thanks, James

14-10-2010, 11:18 PM	#3
nigel cross Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Surrey Car: w203 200 Komp W164 ML350 Posts: 1,986	What does the log book say on it?

15-10-2010, 10:08 AM	#6
GP801 Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Sussex and Tuscany Car: 2003 W209 CLK, 2005 R171 SLK in UK, 1995 S124 E280 in Italy Posts: 1,901	Most likely to be 1.8 litres

15-10-2010, 03:41 PM	#9
withey Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 113	Could I tune my C180k to be more like a C200K? What affect would that have on the fuel consumption?

15-10-2010, 03:56 PM	#11
markjay Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London Car: W203 C180K 2006 / Serviced by Olly PCS (BlackC55) / COMAND NTG2.5 retrofitted by Alfie and Richard Posts: 7,042	As far as I know the C200K has higher kompressor pressure plus lower compression ratio than the C180K. So it is not practical to convert a 180K engine to 200K engine as the cylinder head will have to be changed (or perhaps a thicker head gasket used?) and the kompressor replaced (or at least the pulley). It is still possible to get a bit more power from the C180K, but not convert it to 100% C200K.

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