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Pontoneer · 13-05-2012, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponton-Jetronic

I have starting problem with Petrol engine 200TE Automatic W124 when cold , with only 98k miles on clock. It takes 4 or 5 good churning attempts before engine fires up. Even then it requires 1 min or more before I can drive off. Thats only at the first start of the day - otherwise its fine. I have been pointed in the direction of a leaky pipe, or air getting into fuel system maybe at the return pipe. Any help is welcomed. Thnk u, Ponton.13/5/12

Fuel accumulator ( beside the fuel pump and filter under the car below the rear drivers' side seat ) ?

ruby287 · 13-05-2012, 01:51 PM

my car is manual

mauno · 13-05-2012, 01:52 PM

ruby287 · 13-05-2012, 01:53 PM

The car didnt start again today this time the car did not trun over all the lights and everything came on but it started about 2 hours later any help please?

ruby287 · 13-05-2012, 02:13 PM

would I need a new start motor?

Pontoneer · 13-05-2012, 02:19 PM

Just coming to this thread , I would be inclined to suspect either a faulty starter motor , poor earth return ( either between the starter itself and the engine block , or between the engine/gearbox assembly and the bodywork ) or a fault in the starter circuit ( hence the test proceedure Olly mentioned earlier - bridging the positive terminal to the purple wire to see if the starter operates ) .

This is difficult to diagnose at a distance ( sorry , I am in Scotland ) so if the above does not help you need to find someone competent near you . Anyone who knows what they are doing should be able to sort this for you .

ruby287 · 13-05-2012, 02:30 PM

The car has done this few times now i dont know enough about cars what should i do?

forrera · 13-05-2012, 06:04 PM

replacing the starter motor is not easy or cheap on a class.
see this thread
Replacing the starter motor without dropping the engine - Benzworld.org - Mercedes-Benz Discussion Forum

I would still try the purple wire test first.

ruby287 · 13-05-2012, 06:39 PM

Hi forrera the car starts in the morning without a fault it does not want to start sometimes on short journey say few miles.

i dont anything about cars and my car is a manual so what do I do?

forrera · 13-05-2012, 07:53 PM

my garage is in west London, i'm more than happy to help

ruby287 · 13-05-2012, 08:01 PM

Where abouts in west london is your garage?

Just want to start the car it would not start its been parked up from 1pm, all the lights came on no problem it just would not start, No sound from engine at all.

forrera · 13-05-2012, 09:26 PM

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ruby287 · 13-05-2012, 09:58 PM

Thanks.

I have been to the car it will not start at all i dont know any help?

mauno · 14-05-2012, 08:24 AM

this is not something what can be sorted remotely. and the free diag offer is still on

MB-BTurbo · 09-07-2012, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackC55

Starter motor problems on 168's are very common. I have replaced plenty over the years. 4hr job.

Now this is what is confusing me. It looks like my starter will need replacing. I phoned up an indi a few and was quoted 4 hours like you did. The spoke to Mercedes who said 10 hours, then went back to the indi who went up to 10 hours

So what is it? If its an engine out job it would take longer than 4hours wouldnt it? (desperately hoping that it doesnt).

13-05-2012, 02:19 PM	#51
Pontoneer Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ayrshire Car: '57 219 W105 ,'84 280SE W126 ,'86 500SEL W126 ; '03 C270CDI Avantgarde estate W203 Posts: 6,296	Just coming to this thread , I would be inclined to suspect either a faulty starter motor , poor earth return ( either between the starter itself and the engine block , or between the engine/gearbox assembly and the bodywork ) or a fault in the starter circuit ( hence the test proceedure Olly mentioned earlier - bridging the positive terminal to the purple wire to see if the starter operates ) . This is difficult to diagnose at a distance ( sorry , I am in Scotland ) so if the above does not help you need to find someone competent near you . Anyone who knows what they are doing should be able to sort this for you . __________________ Derek " In a Mercedes-Benz , EVERY seat is First Class "

13-05-2012, 01:51 PM	#47
ruby287 New Member Threadstarter Join Date: May 2012 Location: canterbury kent Car: A CLASS MERCEDES Posts: 27	my car is manual

13-05-2012, 01:52 PM	#48
mauno Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Braintree Car: W203 C200K T model classic/ W168 1.4 avantgarde Posts: 295

13-05-2012, 01:53 PM	#49
ruby287 New Member Threadstarter Join Date: May 2012 Location: canterbury kent Car: A CLASS MERCEDES Posts: 27	The car didnt start again today this time the car did not trun over all the lights and everything came on but it started about 2 hours later any help please?

13-05-2012, 02:13 PM	#50
ruby287 New Member Threadstarter Join Date: May 2012 Location: canterbury kent Car: A CLASS MERCEDES Posts: 27	would I need a new start motor?

13-05-2012, 02:30 PM	#52
ruby287 New Member Threadstarter Join Date: May 2012 Location: canterbury kent Car: A CLASS MERCEDES Posts: 27	The car has done this few times now i dont know enough about cars what should i do?

13-05-2012, 06:04 PM	#53
forrera Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: West London Car: several A class w168s Posts: 34	replacing the starter motor is not easy or cheap on a class. see this thread Replacing the starter motor without dropping the engine - Benzworld.org - Mercedes-Benz Discussion Forum I would still try the purple wire test first.

13-05-2012, 06:39 PM	#54
ruby287 New Member Threadstarter Join Date: May 2012 Location: canterbury kent Car: A CLASS MERCEDES Posts: 27	Hi forrera the car starts in the morning without a fault it does not want to start sometimes on short journey say few miles. i dont anything about cars and my car is a manual so what do I do?

13-05-2012, 07:53 PM	#55
forrera Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: West London Car: several A class w168s Posts: 34	my garage is in west London, i'm more than happy to help

13-05-2012, 08:01 PM	#56
ruby287 New Member Threadstarter Join Date: May 2012 Location: canterbury kent Car: A CLASS MERCEDES Posts: 27	Where abouts in west london is your garage? Just want to start the car it would not start its been parked up from 1pm, all the lights came on no problem it just would not start, No sound from engine at all.

13-05-2012, 09:26 PM	#57
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13-05-2012, 09:58 PM	#58
ruby287 New Member Threadstarter Join Date: May 2012 Location: canterbury kent Car: A CLASS MERCEDES Posts: 27	Thanks. I have been to the car it will not start at all i dont know any help?

14-05-2012, 08:24 AM	#59
mauno Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Braintree Car: W203 C200K T model classic/ W168 1.4 avantgarde Posts: 295	this is not something what can be sorted remotely. and the free diag offer is still on