w124 e220 to 230k engine swap, (m111) - Page 2 - MBClub UK

flanaia1 · 04-09-2011, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NW_Merc

Sorry, so as not to hijack this thread, could you PM me where you got your larger intercooler from as I'm going to need one for my turbo kit.

It was on the car when I bought it along with the other Brabus K1 Kit, Forge do them though and THESE might be a good starting point but you are probably cheaper sourcing in Germany

NW_Merc · 04-09-2011, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flanaia1

It was on the car when I bought it along with the other Brabus K1 Kit, Forge do them though and THESE might be a good starting point but you are probably cheaper sourcing in Germany

Are there any particular makes of intercooler from Germany?

flanaia1 · 04-09-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NW_Merc

Are there any particular makes of intercooler from Germany?

Not sure on the German suppliers But I'm over there on Tues/Weds so will try and find out for you, but I'd be surprised if someone is not along shortly who already knows.

bolide · 04-09-2011, 09:58 PM

Re: quick

You don't buy a W124 Coupe for quick. You buy it for what it is good for - wafting, making progress swiftly, comfort, etc. I don't think a 320 TT is at all incompatible with this ideal but I think to make it work really well would involve lots of hard work & money

A really good TT setup would have lots of torque and be really effortless - just what you want. But I think it'd make you very aware that the gearbox is a bit marginal

I think a V8 would be simpler, as good if not better overall than a TT, but better balanced and with a tougher gearbox than a TT. It might well be cheaper, too

Nick Froome
the independent Mercedes Estate specialists

d w124 · 04-09-2011, 10:08 PM

Is nothing wrong with the gear boxes Nick,there`s cars with over 100k on original gearbox,even though they had TT from new

Steven Stoole · 05-09-2011, 04:12 AM

Is the car a right hand drive? I tell you why as I looked into placing a V8 into my w124 but after much investigation realised it would not fit due to the steering box and front cross member? I am now looking to go for a 3,6 L as this can be placed into the car with much ease.

sagesingh · 05-09-2011, 10:33 PM

It is a right hand drive.

would a 96-97ish c230k m111 work?

less ecu things to worry about, or will i still run into the same problems?

sagesingh · 07-09-2011, 08:48 PM

Bump

Steven Stoole · 08-09-2011, 07:49 AM

As long as the motor has the same connections in terms of sensors and the gearbox is not a newer one i dont see it being a problem. At the end of the day an engine is an engine but the sensors control the function, timing, firing and performance of the motor. Anyway that is my view and am open to correction. Just find a motor have a look at yours see where all the sensors are and do a comparison. Hope this is helpful

d w124 · 08-09-2011, 07:54 AM

Steven:Anything can be done but I might cost a bit.There's a chap that fitted m119 to a RHD W201 so it can be done

carat 3.6 amg · 08-09-2011, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sagesingh

It is a right hand drive.

would a 96-97ish c230k m111 work?

less ecu things to worry about, or will i still run into the same problems?

That would work but you need to get a donor car to make sure you have everything you need.

It is a lot of work.

NW_Merc · 08-09-2011, 11:51 AM

As is the case with all modifications, if you have the time, money and inclination then go ahead and try it. However, I would research until your comfortable with beginning the mod. If you become unstuck and experience serious problems you need to find a solution or risk having a car that doesnt run at all.

sagesingh · 04-02-2012, 12:44 AM

so it has been a while since i have been able to post but i have not been laying idle. i have fully reprayed my car, sorted out my audio system and many other bits. more importantly i have brought a e320 coupe for £700

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i just have to wait for the weather to pick up so i can do the conversion from m111 220 to the m104 320. i will keep you posted.

sagesingh · 28-02-2012, 06:38 PM

I managed to spend a weekend on the car and the engine from the 220 is almost ready to come out, just need to unbolt the propshaft and the engine ready to come out.

One concern i do have about the wiring is that there an electrical component on the 220 just below the MAF which i cant see on the 320, (it awkward to describe, but has 4-5 wires going into it (yes, i know thats not very helpful)). apart from that i think its going well. and should be done within another 4 working days, so thats about 4 weeks, as i only have sundays available.

chopper_harris · 01-05-2012, 11:10 AM

Very interested to get an update - what progress ?

04-09-2011, 09:58 PM	#19
bolide Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Brighton Car: BMW E39 525 Diesel Touring Posts: 3,042	Re: quick You don't buy a W124 Coupe for quick. You buy it for what it is good for - wafting, making progress swiftly, comfort, etc. I don't think a 320 TT is at all incompatible with this ideal but I think to make it work really well would involve lots of hard work & money A really good TT setup would have lots of torque and be really effortless - just what you want. But I think it'd make you very aware that the gearbox is a bit marginal I think a V8 would be simpler, as good if not better overall than a TT, but better balanced and with a tougher gearbox than a TT. It might well be cheaper, too Nick Froome the independent Mercedes Estate specialists

04-09-2011, 10:08 PM	#20
d w124 Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: london Car: 300TE s124 E320 w124 3.6project & 300TE-24 Posts: 10,816	Is nothing wrong with the gear boxes Nick,there`s cars with over 100k on original gearbox,even though they had TT from new

05-09-2011, 04:12 AM	#21
Steven Stoole Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Africa Car: Mercedes W124 E280 Posts: 77	Is the car a right hand drive? I tell you why as I looked into placing a V8 into my w124 but after much investigation realised it would not fit due to the steering box and front cross member? I am now looking to go for a 3,6 L as this can be placed into the car with much ease.

05-09-2011, 10:33 PM	#22
sagesingh Hardcore MB Enthusiast Threadstarter Join Date: Jun 2007 Car: '95 W124 E220, '96 W124 E320 Cabriolet Posts: 111	It is a right hand drive. would a 96-97ish c230k m111 work? less ecu things to worry about, or will i still run into the same problems?

07-09-2011, 08:48 PM	#23
sagesingh Hardcore MB Enthusiast Threadstarter Join Date: Jun 2007 Car: '95 W124 E220, '96 W124 E320 Cabriolet Posts: 111	Bump

08-09-2011, 07:49 AM	#24
Steven Stoole Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Africa Car: Mercedes W124 E280 Posts: 77	As long as the motor has the same connections in terms of sensors and the gearbox is not a newer one i dont see it being a problem. At the end of the day an engine is an engine but the sensors control the function, timing, firing and performance of the motor. Anyway that is my view and am open to correction. Just find a motor have a look at yours see where all the sensors are and do a comparison. Hope this is helpful

08-09-2011, 07:54 AM	#25
d w124 Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: london Car: 300TE s124 E320 w124 3.6project & 300TE-24 Posts: 10,816	Steven:Anything can be done but I might cost a bit.There's a chap that fitted m119 to a RHD W201 so it can be done

08-09-2011, 11:51 AM	#27
NW_Merc Banned Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Over here, sometimes over there Car: 1994 Mercedes C180 classic Posts: 5,935	As is the case with all modifications, if you have the time, money and inclination then go ahead and try it. However, I would research until your comfortable with beginning the mod. If you become unstuck and experience serious problems you need to find a solution or risk having a car that doesnt run at all.

04-02-2012, 12:44 AM	#28
sagesingh Hardcore MB Enthusiast Threadstarter Join Date: Jun 2007 Car: '95 W124 E220, '96 W124 E320 Cabriolet Posts: 111	so it has been a while since i have been able to post but i have not been laying idle. i have fully reprayed my car, sorted out my audio system and many other bits. more importantly i have brought a e320 coupe for £700 . i just have to wait for the weather to pick up so i can do the conversion from m111 220 to the m104 320. i will keep you posted.

28-02-2012, 06:38 PM	#29
sagesingh Hardcore MB Enthusiast Threadstarter Join Date: Jun 2007 Car: '95 W124 E220, '96 W124 E320 Cabriolet Posts: 111	I managed to spend a weekend on the car and the engine from the 220 is almost ready to come out, just need to unbolt the propshaft and the engine ready to come out. One concern i do have about the wiring is that there an electrical component on the 220 just below the MAF which i cant see on the 320, (it awkward to describe, but has 4-5 wires going into it (yes, i know thats not very helpful)). apart from that i think its going well. and should be done within another 4 working days, so thats about 4 weeks, as i only have sundays available.

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01-05-2012, 11:10 AM	#30
chopper_harris Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wigan, Lancashire Car: A124 - E Cabriolet Posts: 40	Very interested to get an update - what progress ?