Anyone else got W211 E class auto gearbox problems? - Page 5 - MBClub UK

rascalmaster · 24-05-2010, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by momomo

What is the mileage on the car? You are past the age of cars which were affected with the glycol contamination.

I would suggest its to do with the gearbox oil level being low. Has it ever had a gearbox service? Its probably around the time for when its due any way.

Hi

It has done 54,000 miles now.

thanks for the heads up on the glycol contamination (even though it's past cars that were effected...)

Not sure about a gearbox service... have been in touch with Mercedes Ipswich; they are having it in for a look see on this friday.
i'm a newbie to mercs, diesels and automatics, so all the homework i can do before then will probably stand me in good stead!
the car still has a year's warranty on it through Mercedes direct)
cheers!

momomo · 24-05-2010, 11:26 PM

At 54,000 miles it is a bit overdue for a gearbox service. This involves draining all the old oil out, replacing the gearbox filter and refilling with new fluid to exactly the correct level.

At first MB claimed its sealed for life but it isn't. They even have a service interval for this job now.

Finally i would recommend you go to a good indy who knows what they are doing etc and also it will cost a lot less. I only say this as some dealers do not change the oil properly, they will just drop the sump and drain whats in there and refill. This leaves half of the old fluid still in the gearbox. I dont know if this will affect any terms of your warranty (using an indy) so i will leave this up to you.

rascalmaster · 24-05-2010, 11:44 PM

thanks again momomo!

i will let you know what comes of the dealership visit on friday...

kole301 · 24-05-2010, 11:49 PM

Jerking and limp mode in my case was related to engine mounts... Changed the mounts... Back to normal...

rascalmaster · 01-06-2010, 02:19 PM

Hi guys, just to update you all;

MB had the car for an hour a couple of days ago, and gave it back saying there was a 'back-pressure' error code that had now been reset and all should now be well.
Lo and behold; the car has done the same twice since; and is booked to go back in a week...
I have also noticed the following since my last visit to MB...
1. the car now revs a lot further before changing gear (makes a lot of noise and higher revs but the pickup is slower)
2. The brakes seem a little bit sluggish.
... hmm makes you wonder exactly what they have adjusted?!

i got in contact with the previous owner who said the only problem he had with the car was that the gearbox seemed not to change gears fast enough and the car revved a lot with not much acceleration... (seems like thats what i have got now...) and MB had re-progammed the gearbox.

rascalmaster · 13-06-2010, 08:49 AM

aloha all...

just had my E280 CDI back.

MB diagnosed it as a faulty turbo charger, and have changed it under warranty.

so, fingers crossed!!

prm · 13-06-2010, 09:02 AM

Lets hope it fixes it, keep us updated i've got the same car

rascalmaster · 13-06-2010, 06:47 PM

Thanks prm... yeah fingers crossed!

the car feels like brand new now! lovely butter-smooth acceleration and flawless gear changes...

saw this thread that sounded interesting:

CDi Turbo failures?

rascalmaster · 13-06-2010, 06:59 PM

and here's a fault chart for turbo problems and the possible underlying causes

MERCEDES TURBOCHARGERS TROUBLESHOOTER FAULT DIAGNOSIS

**BlackC55** · 13-06-2010, 08:39 PM

How can a faulty Turbo cause gearbox issues?

rascalmaster · 13-06-2010, 09:50 PM

I was told that the turbo had a manufacturing flaw and when it intermittently malfunctioned (during rapid acceleration from slow speeds) it caused various sensors to pick up different readings and eventually caused the gearbox to 'get confused' and hunt for the right gear; thereby causing the experienced short duration shuddering as if the gearbox was struggling to find the right gear.
... reads like a sherlock holmes special, I know... but that's the way it's been explained to me :-)

rascalmaster · 13-06-2010, 09:52 PM

Moreover.... the problem seems sorted
now!
... fingers crossed!
;-)

driver5 · 18-06-2010, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian WH

Thats a very General Statement, when you only talk of a problem with your gearbox.

I personally have had no problem with my E320 CDI and nobody else to my knowledge has reported gearbox troubles on a W211?????

Hi folks i have e320 auto cdi which giving me gearbox problems its like driving over a catttle grid at certain speeds took to mercedes and had it taking for a test drive mec said quietly tor converters are starting to give bother on o4 model etc i have only 82k on the car.( help please).

germerc · 24-08-2010, 07:44 PM

I have recently purchased a 2003 E270 cdi with 2 main dealer 4 Specialist Stamps and 76 k miles, to replace the W210 220 cdi which was to leggy & oxidising like hell

,
when hot and in heavy traffic stop start etc...20-30 mph gear box seams twitchy C/S button make no difference to me either, engine seams to rev high when pulling away etc.. could this be box oil change required or ecu fault etc... I have been assured from specialist in scotland the gear box rad has been change which was a common fault

i am senisitive to this the w210 i parted with box needed re-conditioning due to incorrect servicing at about 165 k

and want to nip the w211 in the bud

can anyone advise on these symptoms before i go to specialist etc...

thanks

murray motors · 25-08-2010, 11:56 PM

you need to do a test of the g/box oil to see if it has antifreeze in it 1 of the 2 types of radiators had a problem with the glycol leaking into the g/box via the g/box oil cooler.The glycol then attacked the plates in the torque converter which gives a vibration up hills.Fit a torque converter bypass the g/box oil cooler for a independent cooler and use the proper oil

13-06-2010, 08:39 PM	#70
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24-08-2010, 07:44 PM	#74
germerc New Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: north east Car: E 270 CDI Posts: 3	2003 E 270 Cdi Gearbox twitchy I have recently purchased a 2003 E270 cdi with 2 main dealer 4 Specialist Stamps and 76 k miles, to replace the W210 220 cdi which was to leggy & oxidising like hell , when hot and in heavy traffic stop start etc...20-30 mph gear box seams twitchy C/S button make no difference to me either, engine seams to rev high when pulling away etc.. could this be box oil change required or ecu fault etc... I have been assured from specialist in scotland the gear box rad has been change which was a common fault i am senisitive to this the w210 i parted with box needed re-conditioning due to incorrect servicing at about 165 k and want to nip the w211 in the bud can anyone advise on these symptoms before i go to specialist etc... thanks

24-05-2010, 11:26 PM	#62
momomo Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Surrey Posts: 1,444	At 54,000 miles it is a bit overdue for a gearbox service. This involves draining all the old oil out, replacing the gearbox filter and refilling with new fluid to exactly the correct level. At first MB claimed its sealed for life but it isn't. They even have a service interval for this job now. Finally i would recommend you go to a good indy who knows what they are doing etc and also it will cost a lot less. I only say this as some dealers do not change the oil properly, they will just drop the sump and drain whats in there and refill. This leaves half of the old fluid still in the gearbox. I dont know if this will affect any terms of your warranty (using an indy) so i will leave this up to you.

24-05-2010, 11:44 PM	#63
rascalmaster Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: May 2010 Location: harwich, essex. UK Car: E280 CDI Avantgarde, E320 Avantgarde Posts: 1,338	thanks again momomo! i will let you know what comes of the dealership visit on friday...

24-05-2010, 11:49 PM	#64
kole301 Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris-France Car: SLK 200 (1999) Posts: 83	Jerking and limp mode in my case was related to engine mounts... Changed the mounts... Back to normal...

01-06-2010, 02:19 PM	#65
rascalmaster Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: May 2010 Location: harwich, essex. UK Car: E280 CDI Avantgarde, E320 Avantgarde Posts: 1,338	Hi guys, just to update you all; MB had the car for an hour a couple of days ago, and gave it back saying there was a 'back-pressure' error code that had now been reset and all should now be well. Lo and behold; the car has done the same twice since; and is booked to go back in a week... I have also noticed the following since my last visit to MB... 1. the car now revs a lot further before changing gear (makes a lot of noise and higher revs but the pickup is slower) 2. The brakes seem a little bit sluggish. ... hmm makes you wonder exactly what they have adjusted?! i got in contact with the previous owner who said the only problem he had with the car was that the gearbox seemed not to change gears fast enough and the car revved a lot with not much acceleration... (seems like thats what i have got now...) and MB had re-progammed the gearbox.

13-06-2010, 08:49 AM	#66
rascalmaster Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: May 2010 Location: harwich, essex. UK Car: E280 CDI Avantgarde, E320 Avantgarde Posts: 1,338	aloha all... just had my E280 CDI back. MB diagnosed it as a faulty turbo charger, and have changed it under warranty. so, fingers crossed!!

13-06-2010, 09:02 AM	#67
prm Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Braintree Essex Car: E250cdi AG 2012 Posts: 240	Lets hope it fixes it, keep us updated i've got the same car

13-06-2010, 06:47 PM	#68
rascalmaster Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: May 2010 Location: harwich, essex. UK Car: E280 CDI Avantgarde, E320 Avantgarde Posts: 1,338	Thanks prm... yeah fingers crossed! the car feels like brand new now! lovely butter-smooth acceleration and flawless gear changes... saw this thread that sounded interesting: CDi Turbo failures?

13-06-2010, 06:59 PM	#69
rascalmaster Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: May 2010 Location: harwich, essex. UK Car: E280 CDI Avantgarde, E320 Avantgarde Posts: 1,338	and here's a fault chart for turbo problems and the possible underlying causes MERCEDES TURBOCHARGERS TROUBLESHOOTER FAULT DIAGNOSIS

13-06-2010, 09:50 PM	#71
rascalmaster Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: May 2010 Location: harwich, essex. UK Car: E280 CDI Avantgarde, E320 Avantgarde Posts: 1,338	I was told that the turbo had a manufacturing flaw and when it intermittently malfunctioned (during rapid acceleration from slow speeds) it caused various sensors to pick up different readings and eventually caused the gearbox to 'get confused' and hunt for the right gear; thereby causing the experienced short duration shuddering as if the gearbox was struggling to find the right gear. ... reads like a sherlock holmes special, I know... but that's the way it's been explained to me :-)

13-06-2010, 09:52 PM	#72
rascalmaster Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: May 2010 Location: harwich, essex. UK Car: E280 CDI Avantgarde, E320 Avantgarde Posts: 1,338	Moreover.... the problem seems sorted now! ... fingers crossed! ;-)

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25-08-2010, 11:56 PM	#75
murray motors Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: belfast Car: 129 sl 500 and sprinter Posts: 81	you need to do a test of the g/box oil to see if it has antifreeze in it 1 of the 2 types of radiators had a problem with the glycol leaking into the g/box via the g/box oil cooler.The glycol then attacked the plates in the torque converter which gives a vibration up hills.Fit a torque converter bypass the g/box oil cooler for a independent cooler and use the proper oil