Comand replacement :)

columb · 07-02-2009, 01:27 PM

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/7-CAR-DVD-PLAY...iendlyZ1QQpvZ2

Seems to be perfect for me:

1. Windows CE so possibly TomTom + many programs out there for WinCE... (biggest plus for me)
2. TV-In so I can connect via TV-OUT my HTC Touch Pro
3. DVD, DIVX, MP3
4. Bluetooth for phone
5. TOUCH SCREEN
etcetc...

I want to clarify one thing- I'm not interested in TV/DVD in motion!

Cons:

1. Possibly poor build quality (cheap)
2. No integration (?) with volume control on steering wheel.
3. Strange illumination colours - not looking nice

So, everything looks OK but as I don't know many things I'd like to ask a few questions:

1. Is it easy/possible to remove Audio 10 and plug this in? I mean all speakers, radio antenna?
2. How can I connect steering wheel controls (volume) to this radio? Any chance of doing that?
3. Anything else I should ask?

Is there anything else on the market with simillar specs? As you know, I do prefer TomTom (now with whole EU as one map + POIs + SpeedCams warnings!) and I'd love to have TT. Comand while it's nice, doesn't do what I need (no full postcode, no speedcams warnings etc).

Cheers
Chris

fuzzer · 07-02-2009, 01:45 PM

not that i know of at that pricepoint .

i always liked this pioneer unit when looking at double din.

http://www.overstock.com/Electronics...tml?cid=133635

columb · 07-02-2009, 01:49 PM

Seen it in Halfords. For that price- rubbish! Too slow, only iGo etc

Not what I'm looking for

Thanks anyway!

Cheers
Chris

fuzzer · 07-02-2009, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by columb

Seen it in Halfords. For that price- rubbish! Too slow, only iGo etc

Not what I'm looking for

Thanks anyway!

Cheers
Chris

how about a project like craigyb did agees ago?

CarPuter installation in a CLK

Diesel Benz · 07-02-2009, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by columb

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/7-CAR-DVD-PLAY...iendlyZ1QQpvZ2

Seems to be perfect for me:

1. Windows CE so possibly TomTom + many programs out there for WinCE... (biggest plus for me)

Current MB navigation unit run on Windows CE (on the W204 and W221 at least, I assume the NTG2.5 too). You still cannot run external applications like TomTom. The eBay item does not seem to support external applications either, at least I did not find anything mentioned about that.

columb · 07-02-2009, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel Benz

Current MB navigation unit run on Windows CE (on the W204 and W221 at least, I assume the NTG2.5 too). You still cannot run external applications like TomTom. The eBay item does not seem to support external applications either, at least I did not find anything mentioned about that.

every wince can be easly hacked so I'm not worried about that

I'd like to see steering wheel integration as a option! I'm hoping that Richard Miro or Alfie know about those things

Thanks!
Cheers
Chris

sent from mobile

stevesey · 07-02-2009, 03:01 PM

I've read stuff on people doing steering wheel integration on carputers buy canibalising a USB game pad and connecting to OEM steering wheel buttons.

columb · 07-02-2009, 04:27 PM

good idea if you going for a carputer(i was thingig about that as well!) but we are planning to buy ML in 2-3 years time so I don't want to spend too much money and time on this car

We still might keep it, though but atmo we don't need two cars

Cheers
Chris

send from mobile

Diesel Benz · 07-02-2009, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by columb

every wince can be easly hacked so I'm not worried about that

I'd like to see steering wheel integration as a option! I'm hoping that Richard Miro or Alfie know about those things

Thanks!
Cheers
Chris

sent from mobile

I did not take into account that you are a Linux/Unix expert and then would know Windows stuff too, I'm afraid it would not be equally easy for an average MB owner. Do you actually have some pointers on these hacks, some useful personalisation done somewhere? Say run a browser and make it use the phone for internet connectivity.

The steering wheel buttons don't do any intelligent stuff but insert CAN-bus messages from their control unit. I guess you could just hack a CAN-bus adapter and interpret those messages on a WinCE application?

columb · 07-02-2009, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel Benz

I did not take into account that you are a Linux/Unix expert and then would know Windows stuff too, I'm afraid it would not be equally easy for an average MB owner. Do you actually have some pointers on these hacks, some useful personalisation done somewhere? Say run a browser and make it use the phone for internet connectivity.

Well, I'm MCSE:S+M

I'm using PDAs/PNAs for last few years so I know about them a lot! (I think so). Also, I'm doing AS/400 administration and networking stuff. I used to do hacking

but not anymore. Had some problems but nothing ever proved.

Most hacks are done with ActiveSync or other direct access to the device.
I haven't seen MB new sat nav but if there is a way to connect an laptop to it then their must be a way to hack it. Camon, it's only windows! Pretty much every windows can be hacked - especially having physical access...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel Benz

The steering wheel buttons don't do any intelligent stuff but insert CAN-bus messages from their control unit. I guess you could just hack a CAN-bus adapter and interpret those messages on a WinCE application?

Yeah, that's a good idea! I'm not a developer but I think that possibly I could get those messages decoded.
This device has USB port which means everything is possible

Cheers
Chris

columb · 07-02-2009, 06:30 PM

I think I might bite the bullet and actually order one!
(I'm getting married in May so I have to check with soon-to-be-wife if that's OK as we are saving money to buy a house

)

Cheers
Chris

Diesel Benz · 07-02-2009, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by columb

I think I might bite the bullet and actually order one!
(I'm getting married in May so I have to check with soon-to-be-wife if that's OK as we are saving money to buy a house

)

Cheers
Chris

Congratulations in advance, I'd suggest making the purchase soon, later on it may turn out to be a lot more difficult.

columb · 08-02-2009, 09:46 PM

I just can't sacrifice my steering wheel controls! It looks like I'm not buying it then

I will wait for a ML with nice screen

Cheers
Chris

07-02-2009, 01:27 PM	#1
columb Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: May 2008 Location: Exeter, Devon Car: C-CLASS 200CDI (W203) Posts: 440	Comand replacement :) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/7-CAR-DVD-PLAY...iendlyZ1QQpvZ2 Seems to be perfect for me: 1. Windows CE so possibly TomTom + many programs out there for WinCE... (biggest plus for me) 2. TV-In so I can connect via TV-OUT my HTC Touch Pro 3. DVD, DIVX, MP3 4. Bluetooth for phone 5. TOUCH SCREEN etcetc... I want to clarify one thing- I'm not interested in TV/DVD in motion! Cons: 1. Possibly poor build quality (cheap) 2. No integration (?) with volume control on steering wheel. 3. Strange illumination colours - not looking nice So, everything looks OK but as I don't know many things I'd like to ask a few questions: 1. Is it easy/possible to remove Audio 10 and plug this in? I mean all speakers, radio antenna? 2. How can I connect steering wheel controls (volume) to this radio? Any chance of doing that? 3. Anything else I should ask? Is there anything else on the market with simillar specs? As you know, I do prefer TomTom (now with whole EU as one map + POIs + SpeedCams warnings!) and I'd love to have TT. Comand while it's nice, doesn't do what I need (no full postcode, no speedcams warnings etc). Cheers Chris

07-02-2009, 01:45 PM	#2
fuzzer Executive Staff Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glasgow Car: C220 CDI Sport Posts: 8,131	not that i know of at that pricepoint . i always liked this pioneer unit when looking at double din. http://www.overstock.com/Electronics...tml?cid=133635

07-02-2009, 01:49 PM	#3
columb Hardcore MB Enthusiast Threadstarter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Exeter, Devon Car: C-CLASS 200CDI (W203) Posts: 440	Seen it in Halfords. For that price- rubbish! Too slow, only iGo etc Not what I'm looking for Thanks anyway! Cheers Chris

07-02-2009, 03:01 PM	#7
stevesey Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bristol Car: Alfa 156 1.8TS Posts: 2,634	I've read stuff on people doing steering wheel integration on carputers buy canibalising a USB game pad and connecting to OEM steering wheel buttons.

07-02-2009, 04:27 PM	#8
columb Hardcore MB Enthusiast Threadstarter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Exeter, Devon Car: C-CLASS 200CDI (W203) Posts: 440	good idea if you going for a carputer(i was thingig about that as well!) but we are planning to buy ML in 2-3 years time so I don't want to spend too much money and time on this car We still might keep it, though but atmo we don't need two cars Cheers Chris send from mobile

07-02-2009, 06:30 PM	#11
columb Hardcore MB Enthusiast Threadstarter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Exeter, Devon Car: C-CLASS 200CDI (W203) Posts: 440	I think I might bite the bullet and actually order one! (I'm getting married in May so I have to check with soon-to-be-wife if that's OK as we are saving money to buy a house ) Cheers Chris

08-02-2009, 09:46 PM	#13
columb Hardcore MB Enthusiast Threadstarter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Exeter, Devon Car: C-CLASS 200CDI (W203) Posts: 440	I just can't sacrifice my steering wheel controls! It looks like I'm not buying it then I will wait for a ML with nice screen Cheers Chris

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