Help Needed with MY01 Firmware Upgrade - Page 2

Diesel Benz · 28-11-2008, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philsx

I'd like to take PJayUK up on his offer of using his disc if possible .... but I don't seem to be able to PM anyone on here anymore for some reason ... so please get in touch with me if you can.

I guess you have to have 30 posts before you can send PM. A while ago I "complained" why others cannot send PM for the one who has not reached 30 posts but got blamed about a bad idea, I guess it is a "technical" issue too.

I'd suggest posting a few messages soon or putting your contact info available for PJayUK temporarily (make your email address difficult to read for spam robots).

miro · 28-11-2008, 06:00 AM

If your COMAND has intelligent spelling then you already have the update installed. Not all COMAND units have a 2001 firmware date when the MY01 patch is applied. Some still claim to have a pre-2000 version even after the update.

If your COMAND has the DX logo on boot (shows for a short time) then you have the update. Other than that I think the small streets depend on the map, location and zoom value selected.

The other complication is that a small number of COMAND units do not update as expected and they do nothing at all. Even when the correct buttons are pressed. That is a problem with a batch.

Could be any one of these things in tandem. Must use a factory CD to avoid a problem where the laser in the unit is too weak to register with a CD-R etc.

The age of the unit tells me that it is a lottery of possible reasons.

PJayUK · 28-11-2008, 09:21 AM

Never got it to work with a copied CD, original is fine.

philsx · 28-11-2008, 09:46 AM

Hi PJayUK - I've put my MSN contact address onto my profile, could you email me there as I'd like to get hold of your original MY01 update disc if you don't need it any more .... or just borrow it for a while.

Miro - thanks for your info - I don't have intelligent spelling or the Merc logo when it boots up .... and I'm hoping that it isn't one of the batch of units that you mention that won't update at all!

philsx · 28-11-2008, 10:15 AM

Thanks DickChailey .... sounds like you are in my neck of the woods. I've tried again with the CD-R disc following your instructions to the letter. It only ever gets as far as the 'Insert Update Disc' screen - what happens is that I insert the CD and can hear that little high pitched squawk as the drive spins up the CD ... so I know that it is definitely trying to read the data off the disc, but the screen never moves on to the next one which would have the start option. Given that the drive has no problem reading the Navi disc (or a music CD) I'm thinking that my only option now is to try using an original disc.

PJayUK · 28-11-2008, 10:27 AM

Hi Phil

Just sent you an email to the address on your profile....

dickchailey · 28-11-2008, 10:56 AM

Had a look at the CD I used. CD-R Maxwell so nothing special. Looking back through the PO's bills the Comand CD was repaired about 3 years ago so the laser may have been replaced. Seems the PO was a smoker and the Comand had sucked in smoke and was covered in brown goo. Never leave you fags burning in the ashtray! You are welcome to try my CD but the "experts" experience is that you will need the Merc CD or a laser clean and polish. Good luck.

philsx · 28-11-2008, 11:29 AM

Thanks DickChailey - my CD-R is a Memorex, so probably similar quality to your one. I will try it with a proper MB CD, PJayUK has offered me his, I'll report back when I've tried it.

philsx · 27-12-2008, 03:05 PM

I've made some progress, thanks largely to PJayUK who has very kindly provided me with an original MY01 upgrade disk. The unit now recognises the disk during the upgrade process and tells me the software versions - current, which is 1999 vintage, and on the upgrade disk which is late 2001. That's further than I've ever got before!

Now the bad news - when I take the next step and select 'head unit' the screen changes to a 'checking disk' display with a progress bar but after only a few seconds the screen goes completely blank and the unit seems to die completely. I can't power it back on, or worse eject the upgrade disk.

After half an hour or so things seem to reset themselves, in as much as I'm able to power the unit up and eject the disk. I've repeated the process twice and exactly the same things happened. The last time I tried it was Xmas eve and I just left the update disk in the unit and locked the car - went back today and found I now have a completely flat battery!

I've cleaned the CD drive using a 'home' CD/DVD cleaning disk, and I really don't think that it's the CD drive at fault. Has anyone any other suggestions as to what may be causing it to shutdown like this during the 'checking disk' stage?

timwood2000 · 27-12-2008, 03:46 PM

...go and see Alfie!

richard · 28-12-2008, 04:17 PM

Some of the early units wont update - they do exactly as you describe above - i've only seen it on W210 units, not CLK units, but then i've seen a lot more W210 units than CLK units.

The unit effectively crashes, and keeps using power - as you have found out.

I have never found a solution to this ..

R

PJayUK · 29-12-2008, 08:36 PM

Phil

I never got anywhere with the update, and from what I understand including talking to a very knowledgeable indi it doesn't offer much anyway...

Sorry mate I know you been pulling your hair out with this, I hope you get it sorted.

philsx · 30-12-2008, 09:15 PM

Thanks Paul and Richard - and you are spot on, I'm fast running out of hair (not that I started with a lot)!

Seriously though I think that I'm almost there, I think what's happening now is that the unit is going into an endless ICAN loop as described in this previous post that I've unearthed:

"6 For download with ICAN activity (if ICAN active, download
stops endlessly in the case of checking CD) press keys 1 and 3
at the same time (before start of download!)"

Problem is that pressing the 1 and 3 as described does not seem to work, the post actually referred to a W220 not a W208, so I wonder if I'm not doing it properly somehow. Does anyone out there know how to stop ICAN activity on a W208 Comand unit?

philsx · 02-01-2009, 08:51 PM

Does anyone out there have any more ideas or suggestions about how I can get around the Comand unit in my W208 shutting down (and going into some sort of loop) at the 'Checking disk' stage of upgrading the comand firmware to MY01?

Very frustrating if I have to give up at this stage having come so far and overcome all the initial problems with it not wanting to recognise an upgrade disk (even the stealers one) unless it is an original Merc/Bosch firmware CD. (Interestingly the head unit will happily play music CD-R's, but won't recognise a firmware ugrade on CD-R.)

aka$h · 28-10-2009, 12:10 AM

Bringing this thread back from the dead. Im having the same problem as the OP. Any suggestions as to what I should do? Or does anyone know the part number for the CD?

Thanks

28-11-2008, 06:00 AM	#17
miro Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sydney NSW Australia Car: W203 slightly modified Posts: 3,517	If your COMAND has intelligent spelling then you already have the update installed. Not all COMAND units have a 2001 firmware date when the MY01 patch is applied. Some still claim to have a pre-2000 version even after the update. If your COMAND has the DX logo on boot (shows for a short time) then you have the update. Other than that I think the small streets depend on the map, location and zoom value selected. The other complication is that a small number of COMAND units do not update as expected and they do nothing at all. Even when the correct buttons are pressed. That is a problem with a batch. Could be any one of these things in tandem. Must use a factory CD to avoid a problem where the laser in the unit is too weak to register with a CD-R etc. The age of the unit tells me that it is a lottery of possible reasons. __________________ Modz ... enjoy the difference.

28-11-2008, 09:46 AM	#19
philsx New Member Threadstarter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Near Uckfield, East Sussex Car: CLK430 Cabrio Posts: 19	Need Original MY01 Disc Hi PJayUK - I've put my MSN contact address onto my profile, could you email me there as I'd like to get hold of your original MY01 update disc if you don't need it any more .... or just borrow it for a while. Miro - thanks for your info - I don't have intelligent spelling or the Merc logo when it boots up .... and I'm hoping that it isn't one of the batch of units that you mention that won't update at all!

28-11-2008, 10:15 AM	#20
philsx New Member Threadstarter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Near Uckfield, East Sussex Car: CLK430 Cabrio Posts: 19	Tried again with CD-R Thanks DickChailey .... sounds like you are in my neck of the woods. I've tried again with the CD-R disc following your instructions to the letter. It only ever gets as far as the 'Insert Update Disc' screen - what happens is that I insert the CD and can hear that little high pitched squawk as the drive spins up the CD ... so I know that it is definitely trying to read the data off the disc, but the screen never moves on to the next one which would have the start option. Given that the drive has no problem reading the Navi disc (or a music CD) I'm thinking that my only option now is to try using an original disc.

28-11-2008, 11:29 AM	#23
philsx New Member Threadstarter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Near Uckfield, East Sussex Car: CLK430 Cabrio Posts: 19	Cd-r Thanks DickChailey - my CD-R is a Memorex, so probably similar quality to your one. I will try it with a proper MB CD, PJayUK has offered me his, I'll report back when I've tried it.

27-12-2008, 03:05 PM	#24
philsx New Member Threadstarter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Near Uckfield, East Sussex Car: CLK430 Cabrio Posts: 19	Some Progress - but more problems I've made some progress, thanks largely to PJayUK who has very kindly provided me with an original MY01 upgrade disk. The unit now recognises the disk during the upgrade process and tells me the software versions - current, which is 1999 vintage, and on the upgrade disk which is late 2001. That's further than I've ever got before! Now the bad news - when I take the next step and select 'head unit' the screen changes to a 'checking disk' display with a progress bar but after only a few seconds the screen goes completely blank and the unit seems to die completely. I can't power it back on, or worse eject the upgrade disk. After half an hour or so things seem to reset themselves, in as much as I'm able to power the unit up and eject the disk. I've repeated the process twice and exactly the same things happened. The last time I tried it was Xmas eve and I just left the update disk in the unit and locked the car - went back today and found I now have a completely flat battery! I've cleaned the CD drive using a 'home' CD/DVD cleaning disk, and I really don't think that it's the CD drive at fault. Has anyone any other suggestions as to what may be causing it to shutdown like this during the 'checking disk' stage?

28-11-2008, 09:21 AM	#18
PJayUK Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Surrey, United Kingdom Car: ML320 W163, E320 W210 & Jaguar X300-XJR6 Posts: 497	Never got it to work with a copied CD, original is fine.

28-11-2008, 10:27 AM	#21
PJayUK Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Surrey, United Kingdom Car: ML320 W163, E320 W210 & Jaguar X300-XJR6 Posts: 497	Hi Phil Just sent you an email to the address on your profile....

28-11-2008, 10:56 AM	#22
dickchailey Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: East Sussex UK Car: SL500 R129 1999 Posts: 80	Had a look at the CD I used. CD-R Maxwell so nothing special. Looking back through the PO's bills the Comand CD was repaired about 3 years ago so the laser may have been replaced. Seems the PO was a smoker and the Comand had sucked in smoke and was covered in brown goo. Never leave you fags burning in the ashtray! You are welcome to try my CD but the "experts" experience is that you will need the Merc CD or a laser clean and polish. Good luck.

27-12-2008, 03:46 PM	#25
timwood2000 Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: SE London Car: R320 CDI SE LWB '07 & BMW R1150RT '05 Posts: 377	...go and see Alfie!

28-12-2008, 04:17 PM	#26
richard Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Berkshire, UK Car: 07 ML500, 04 SL55 Posts: 2,289	Some of the early units wont update - they do exactly as you describe above - i've only seen it on W210 units, not CLK units, but then i've seen a lot more W210 units than CLK units. The unit effectively crashes, and keeps using power - as you have found out. I have never found a solution to this .. R __________________ Of course i'll take it apart. Comand Online Ltd: We're listed on MBClub - please click to see our products and discounts available. Latest Mods: R230 Distronic. Next Mod: 04 SL NTG2.5 . . . Previous Mercs: W163 ML500, W169 A, R230 SL55, W163 ML430, W208 CLK55, R129 SL500, W208 CLK320, R170 SLK230, 1st Merc = R129 SL320.

29-12-2008, 08:36 PM	#27
PJayUK Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Surrey, United Kingdom Car: ML320 W163, E320 W210 & Jaguar X300-XJR6 Posts: 497	Phil I never got anywhere with the update, and from what I understand including talking to a very knowledgeable indi it doesn't offer much anyway... Sorry mate I know you been pulling your hair out with this, I hope you get it sorted.

30-12-2008, 09:15 PM	#28
philsx New Member Threadstarter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Near Uckfield, East Sussex Car: CLK430 Cabrio Posts: 19	So close .... now need to disable ICAN Thanks Paul and Richard - and you are spot on, I'm fast running out of hair (not that I started with a lot)! Seriously though I think that I'm almost there, I think what's happening now is that the unit is going into an endless ICAN loop as described in this previous post that I've unearthed: "6 For download with ICAN activity (if ICAN active, download stops endlessly in the case of checking CD) press keys 1 and 3 at the same time (before start of download!)" Problem is that pressing the 1 and 3 as described does not seem to work, the post actually referred to a W220 not a W208, so I wonder if I'm not doing it properly somehow. Does anyone out there know how to stop ICAN activity on a W208 Comand unit?

02-01-2009, 08:51 PM	#29
philsx New Member Threadstarter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Near Uckfield, East Sussex Car: CLK430 Cabrio Posts: 19	Any Suggestions anyone? Does anyone out there have any more ideas or suggestions about how I can get around the Comand unit in my W208 shutting down (and going into some sort of loop) at the 'Checking disk' stage of upgrading the comand firmware to MY01? Very frustrating if I have to give up at this stage having come so far and overcome all the initial problems with it not wanting to recognise an upgrade disk (even the stealers one) unless it is an original Merc/Bosch firmware CD. (Interestingly the head unit will happily play music CD-R's, but won't recognise a firmware ugrade on CD-R.)

28-10-2009, 12:10 AM	#30
aka$h Hardcore MB Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,540	Bringing this thread back from the dead. Im having the same problem as the OP. Any suggestions as to what I should do? Or does anyone know the part number for the CD? Thanks

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