View Full Version : BOSCH or BENZ .... ParkPilot or QuickPark ??
I was looking becoming a BOSCH buyer. The question is .... would you put BOSCH parts in your car rather than MB supplied BOSCH ?
I notice the price of Quick Park (supply only, no fitting) is around $330 AU.
$330 AUD = $240 USD = $203 EURO = 135 GBP
Im quite happy to buy these in bulk and ship them back to Europe. So if anyone is interested I will setup a contact for orders in EEC.
As far as I am concerned, the price difference, yet similar equipment is valid for Benz .... what is the club opinion.
Next stop ..... rain sensor, Bi-Xenon, Xenon Levelling system. Im sure there is a lot more than just that.
Is the entire quicparc setup made by Bosch ? I thought there was a vehicle specific fitting kit too - does that figure in your price ?
S.
Is the entire quicparc setup made by Bosch ? I thought there was a vehicle specific fitting kit too - does that figure in your price ?
S.
This is where neckties dont agree with spanners. From the auto electrician I spoke to and the BOSCH spokesperson there was no discussion of vehicle specific kits.
When I get the entire parts list on hand I will check it myself. This might take several days to acquire.
What is contained in a vehicle specific kit and how does it affect the price ? Is there a reason why someone can not buy a BOSCH kit and improve it with a MB kit ?
I guess its just the templates for the bumper mounting etc. . . Jimmy might be able to confirm , as he has just acquired and fitted one via eBay.
I'm interested in whatever you can get hold of which is OEM quality, at the prices stated - I'm sure others would be too.
S.
jimmy
28-04-2004, 02:24 PM
The Quickparc is indeed a totally Bosch kit and looks fairly universal. The vehicle specific kit contains the drilling templates, different resistors and actual mounting kits for the sensors. These mounting bezels and gubbins are all MB parts. I think the kit for mine was £14 but I did get it cheap as they had it on the shelf collecting dust for months if not years by the look of it.
The Quickparc is indeed a totally Bosch kit and looks fairly universal. The vehicle specific kit contains the drilling templates, different resistors and actual mounting kits for the sensors. These mounting bezels and gubbins are all MB parts. I think the kit for mine was £14 but I did get it cheap as they had it on the shelf collecting dust for months if not years by the look of it.
If you have records of the part numbers I would be interested to know.
How specific are the resistors ?
jimmy
28-04-2004, 04:03 PM
If you have records of the part numbers I would be interested to know.
How specific are the resistors ?
The vehicle fitting kits are in the accessory brochure, I could easily get the number off the brains box but don't know about the sensors now they are fitted.
The resistors look like standard automotive blade fuses. Different ohm values for different cars, I think mine is the 1500 ohm, I eperimented with different resistors to see which would give me the closest reading to an obstacle.
The vehicle fitting kits are in the accessory brochure, I could easily get the number off the brains box but don't know about the sensors now they are fitted.
The resistors look like standard automotive blade fuses. Different ohm values for different cars, I think mine is the 1500 ohm, I eperimented with different resistors to see which would give me the closest reading to an obstacle.
At some point in time in the near future I will acquire various Bosch parts and attempt to buy some of the Benz parts also.
Then we can make a real comparison.
sasha
28-04-2004, 06:45 PM
I'd buy 1 for £135
thx
SAsha
doriant
29-04-2004, 03:03 AM
I would be interested in a kit..... or 2.....
Interested in Parktronic as well
Koolvin
14-06-2004, 08:53 AM
ok whats the latest in this?
I reveresed and touched a wall today - i'm well upset :mad:
ok whats the latest in this?
I reveresed and touched a wall today - i'm well upset :mad:
I am going to buy the Benz kit since it comes in my cars colour. I cant be bothered sending a bumper for spray painting.
If there is no Benz kit for the W202 then perhaps a BOSCH kit will have to do.
I notice the price of Quick Park (supply only, no fitting) is around $330 AU.
$330 AUD = $240 USD = $203 EURO = 135 GBP
Is the price for the back only or does it include the part for the front as well? Also, is it inclusive or exclusive of P &P?
Thanks.
Is the price for the back only or does it include the part for the front as well? Also, is it inclusive or exclusive of P &P?
Thanks.
The BOSCH product is similar to the BENZ one but much more simple and not colour matched. It is rear only.
Im almost certain that you may purchase this item as an unfitted kit and just go for it ..... no mechanic can resist a cash sale with no bother.
Why dont you UK boys do a group buy from a BOSCH dealer.
mrfiepro
14-06-2004, 07:52 PM
Miro,
Is the parking display the same as MB? and for front and back?
P
C240Sport97
14-06-2004, 07:57 PM
me too
I'm interested in whatever you can get hold of which is OEM quality, at the prices stated - I'm sure others would be too.
S.
me too
Like I say, I prefer the Benz kit in the cars same colour with full cable harness integration.
Park Pilot is sold all over the world and it is not limited in supply.
Paul Grainger
15-06-2004, 09:59 PM
I bought the pukka MB Quickpark, plus the requisite MB vehicle-specific 'fitting kit'. It doesn't come with colour coded bezels - you have to paint them yourself. Unless you have a black car. Like me.
Paul G
PS - it's very good.
Ralph
16-06-2004, 12:46 AM
I'm would also be interested in a group buy.
I'm would also be interested in a group buy.
Ok ...... then let's setup a GROUP BUY section. No chit-chat or gas-bagging just people putting 5 or more buys of items on the hot list items going around.
This is the best forum around but it just doesnt have much momentum in bulk shopping.
any MODS listening to this that think it is a good idea ?
Miro - good idea - but a dedicated group buy section might make it hard for people to find the sort of thing they were looking for - so no reason why you can't just start a thread in the appropriate section if you know of a good deal available for a group buy somewhere.
Interested to know a bit more about how you think it would work.
Also, no matter whether you state that no chit-chat or "gas-bagging" should take place, if there's a group buy on a particular product it will tend to generate interest and therefore discussion before people commit to participating / parting with their cash !
S.
Miro - good idea - but a dedicated group buy section might make it hard for people to find the sort of thing they were looking for - so no reason why you can't just start a thread in the appropriate section if you know of a good deal available for a group buy somewhere.
Interested to know a bit more about how you think it would work.
Also, no matter whether you state that no chit-chat or "gas-bagging" should take place, if there's a group buy on a particular product it will tend to generate interest and therefore discussion before people commit to participating / parting with their cash !
S.
It works really well in the USA groups. That is how people get Xenon, AMG, Parktronic parts fitted.
The way it could work is that someone with a really strong desire to buy something can post a heading
GROUP BUY: Park Pilot: End of month.
All you need is for the original poster to make a deal ahead of time to buy 5 or 10 units and to come back to the group with the prices for those deals to then see how many they get.
I cant see that working randonly all over the shop. It really wants its own home.
It would more or less be nothing more than a privately sponsored deal and it would encourage shopping around and swapping sources.
Considering that say ...... MBenzNL would rather sell 10 units in one day and ship them at the same time to different people.
In the USA they have buy-ins at around the 20 people mark. You can imagine how this drives the prices down.
The Quickparc is indeed a totally Bosch kit and looks fairly universal. The vehicle specific kit contains the drilling templates, different resistors and actual mounting kits for the sensors. These mounting bezels and gubbins are all MB parts.
If you have records of the part numbers I would be interested to know.
How specific are the resistors ?
I asked at my Bosch retailer but the rep told him that he will only supply the Park Pilot units to an MB dealer, in order to ensure proper installation and warranty.
Miro, did you manage to buy a Quickparc / Park Pilot by itself? I don't want to fork out AU$600 labour for a job I can do myself.
I found the part numbers on the Bosch website:
http://aa.bosch.de/advastaboschaa/Product.jsp?prod_id=108&ccat_id=23&language=en-GB&publication=1&flash=
Ralph
11-12-2004, 08:26 PM
I've followed that link before. Trouble is the MB Installation Set data is, at best, 6 years out of date.
Not very German is it?
Abbs985uk
12-12-2004, 01:08 AM
Is the kit referred to suitable for a 211 e class?
The accessories brochure quotes £493 for the kit so at that price it cant be bad.
It's suitable for your current model E-class - it's listed in the brochure:
W211 E-class accessories brochure (UK) (http://www.mercedes-benz.co.uk/pc/pc_range/downloads/ cars_ownership/eclass_saloon_estate_accessories.pdf)
Quickparc is the MB name for the Bosch Park Pilot system. I'm pretty sure that Bosch manufacture all the components of the factory-fitted Parktronic. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)
If you're a Mercedes-Benz purist, retrofitting a Park Pilot is as close to Parktronic as you'll get.
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