Command update disc

[andy_cyp]

Can anyone confirm that w211 589 13 2200 is the latest update disc for my 211's command.

TIA

[fred_raven]

Andy , are you sure you want the latest version ?? I have a version , given to me by Glojo , which allows ETA & dist to dest. as a viewable opt, shows traffic jams on correct side off road, but allows Nav i/p whilst on the move - dont think the latest version does this . Let me know if i can be of any help?

;)

[evdok]

Andy , are you sure you want the latest version ?? I have a version , given to me by Glojo , which allows ETA & dist to dest. as a viewable opt, shows traffic jams on correct side off road, but allows Nav i/p whilst on the move - dont think the latest version does this . Let me know if i can be of any help?

;)

what version disc have you got?

[glojo]

Can anyone confirm that w211 589 13 2200 is the latest update disc for my 211's command.

TIAHi Andy,
It is easier I find in talking versions. The update disc that we are talking about is a 'patch' that resolves a few modifications. It is not an official upgrade for the COMAND and it is certainly not a mapping update.

REgards
John

[andy_cyp]

All i want is for my nav to show eta, it took it in last week for a free upgrade and it still wont show the eta ?? So i thought ide get the latest disc hoping it would do that.

Suggestions ?????

[evdok]

re you have ordered the patch disc:)

[glojo]

:o Hi Andy I'll pm you

[andy_cyp]

:o Hi Andy I'll pm you

Waiting for your 2nd pm john;)

[DieselE]

Can anyone confirm that w211 589 13 2200 is the latest update disc for my 211's command.

TIA

That is the part number for the firmware upgrade disk that became available earlier this year. The upgrade is installed via the head unit DVD. It has no effect on the mapping disk in the boot.

As well as showing ETA, I have noticed that the Dynamic route chosen by the car differs very slightly at certain locations compared to before the upgrade. It is almost as if the car is learning the way I prefer to leave particular places. I expect that it is just my imagination.

[glojo]

Waiting for your 2nd pm john;)Hopefully you have received it? :)

Regards
John

[DansSlk]

If your picking up disks, remember to grab the one for the navi processor in the boot.

Its got a few glitch fixes on it, if anybody does need a copy of that navi processor disk just give me a shout.

[jaymanek]

the part number i have is W230 589 002200

[glojo]

the part number i have is W230 589 002200We keep emphasising this but again I will ask,
Is this for the E-class 211 type COMAND?

John

[jaymanek]

this is the number alfie gave me to use on a W220 S Class..

[evdok]

We keep emphasising this but again I will ask,
Is this for the E-class 211 type COMAND?

John

yes it is:)

[glojo]

yes it is:):) My query was with Jay as the COMAND system in the S-class changed to the same as the E, but I'm not sure of either the exact year or model number.

Why on earth there is this number of different model permutations beggars belief. Why for instance is the GL and R-class system inferior to the E-class? Why is the latest CL system not as good as the new S-class? Crazy.


Regards
John

[124fan]

Anyone got W211 589 06 22 00 and W220 589 04 22 00 update discs for an E320 '04 that they'd care to share, I will return them and pay your postage costs, thanks.

Cheers

:)

[richard]

the part number i have is W230 589 002200

Thats the D2B COMAND (CD based) upgrade disk

R

[Alfie]

this is the number alfie gave me to use on a W220 S Class..

Yep, but thats a D2B older style comand. The newer comand units for the E/CLS etc are completely different update disks. Sorry if I didnt make that clear:(

[steve.link]

Can anyone confirm that w211 589 13 2200 is the latest update disc for my 211's command.

TIA

Andy,

This is the latest s/w disk for the Comand head unit - it will display ETA on the front screen. I believe it should be installed foc by the MB dealer. However, in my experience, they dont. You can buy the disk for about £12 and install it yourself in a few minutes.

[steve.link]

Anyone got W211 589 06 22 00 and W220 589 04 22 00 update discs for an E320 '04 that they'd care to share, I will return them and pay your postage costs, thanks.

Cheers

:)

I have the Head Unit disk W211 589 06 22 00 - pm your address.

It won't work if your alreaday have a newer version of the s/w - i.e Rel 15/130 build 51/05 or Rel 21/090 build 30/06.

You have a pm regarding the navigation unit disk

[glojo]

Andy,

This is the latest s/w disk for the Comand head unit - it will display ETA on the front screen. I believe it should be installed foc by the MB dealer. However, in my experience, they dont. You can buy the disk for about £12 and install it yourself in a few minutes.I am not very 'with it' today, but if you are talking about the very latest disc that allows us to have the ETA on the front screen, then my advice is please do not install this until you have resolved all the other issues. The 'patch' CD is not an official service item, it merely adds a few bells and whistles to the updated systems. I am concerned that if you install this onto a system that might not have the earlier official TSB upgrades, it might cause expensive problems.

There is a TSB regarding unofficial dabbling with the Engineers Menu. Mercedes-Benz has instructed dealers to charge for any repairs, resetting etc. Be warned ;) and please give it serious thought.

If there is ANYTHING I can do to assist then please give me a shout.

Can you get access to a CD or DVD that plays Mp3's on a 211 COMAND. If you can then that is the first option. I can help if needs be.

Have you got TMC?

If not then DEFINITELY do NOT install the patch.

TMC should be working because it only needs the correct mapping DVD to activate this option.

Good luck and please be careful.

I'm not with it at all today but hopefully I will be monitoring this forum. :devil: :)

Good luck
John

[124fan]

I have the Head Unit disk W211 589 06 22 00 - pm your address.

It won't work if your alreaday have a newer version of the s/w - i.e Rel 15/130 build 51/05 or Rel 21/090 build 30/06.

You have a pm regarding the navigation unit disk

Thanks Steve, Yes I had a few PM's from folks. My Head Unit shows 15/2004, so I believe that 589 06 22 00 should give me the MP3 facility, I'm still waiting on a mate to make me a MP3 disc! and I don't know what 589 04 22 00 corrects but it came out in my car's early days so I'll use it also.

As not all Main Dealers appear to do these updates, where do we keep a check on whats happening, I know I'd be lost with out this forum!

Thanks again

PM sent

:)

[steve_acp]

Newb Help Required....please..

I have an 06 CLS with factory fit comand.
From engineering mode, The head unit is SW 48/2004.
I beilieve I need update disk W211 589 13 22 00 to get ETA on screen. Could I get a Download of that from anyone please?

My sat nav is running V5 Map. I have V7, but it will not install. Does the nav need an update too?

I read that after installing W211 589 13 22 00, you have to enter destinations whilst stationary into the nav. Is there a patch disk for this, or is it a dealer fix.

I have tried to get my dealer to help, but the SM hasnt got a clue bless him.

Thanks in anticipation for your help guys.

[evdok]

you have a message!

[evdok]

check email in 2mins :)

[richard]

My sat nav is running V5 Map. I have V7, but it will not install. Does the nav need an update too?


Thats the 2nd time i've heard that this week, but i've also seen V7 upgrade from V5 without the ETA patch work.

Are you running V5 or V5.1 map ?

The software updates for the nav processor are normally on the nav disk, although occasionally they issue s/w updates seperately.

There is W220 589 04 22 00 as an update from March 06 for the nav processor - so perhaps your car does need this first.

Where are you ? I have the disks (but won't copy / send out - sorry, I need them here, and I dont copy (c) software) - happy to meet and try the nav processor upgrade, then the V7 and the head unit upgrade and work out what the requirements are for V7 to work.

Just a silly question, theres a load of knock off but good looking copies of the map disks (at >£250 a piece from the dealer its not too surprising) - just make sure you haven't been done with a DVD copy - the shiny side of the disk should not be a funny colour.

R

[richard]

I read that after installing W211 589 13 22 00, you have to enter destinations whilst stationary into the nav. Is there a patch disk for this, or is it a dealer fix.


Its a software setting programmable with Star Diagnosis (i.e dealer / indie-with-star) - its for the Dutch market where thats the law. Again, it seems that that doesnt always happen after an upgrade also.

R

[glojo]

Its a software setting programmable with Star Diagnosis (i.e dealer / indie-with-star) - its for the Dutch market where thats the law. Again, it seems that that doesnt always happen after an upgrade also.

R
Excellent advice Richard but I am sorely tempted to post a copy of the TSB regarding instructions by Mercedes-Benz to dealers warning them about folks mucking about with the Engineers Menu.

There are definite issues with version 5 and when I complained about mine, it was replaced straight away. Again there is a TSB about this. :o :)

Regards
John

[124fan]

I made my MP3 CD ripped it in MP3 and burned it in data CD, with Windows Media Player 11, when I placed it in the headunit I get DVD error!

Did I do something wrong with the disc I made or do you think the head unit needs updating?

Cheers

:)

[glojo]

I made my MP3 CD ripped it in MP3 and burned it in data CD, with Windows Media Player 11, when I placed it in the headunit I get DVD error!

Did I do something wrong with the disc I made or do you think the head unit needs updating?

Cheers

:)If an electrical item doesn't work, the first thing I would check is the fuse. ;)

Until your sure the CD works on a COMAND from a 211 then any advice is plucking at straws.

The most common cause of CD\DVD's not playing is 'operator error'. I have had people protesting how the Cd was working perfectly, they were computer wizard's and knew how to copt files onto a disc. They swore there was something wrong with the COMAND but eventually they admitted that the CD was only ever tested on a hi-fi system:devil: :mad: and yup, they had over complicated the transferring of files onto the CD. A lot of knowledge is sometimes a hindrance.

If that car of yours has been regularly serviced by the main dealer then I would be amazed if it has not been updated to play Mp3's.

John

[DansSlk]

I made my MP3 CD ripped it in MP3 and burned it in data CD, with Windows Media Player 11, when I placed it in the headunit I get DVD error!

Did I do something wrong with the disc I made or do you think the head unit needs updating?

Cheers

:)
So many ways to burn a disk and so many different quality drives and disks to choose from, the headunit is more fussy with disks than my wife is with clothes.

If your car is MP3 enabled then its trial and error.

[steve.link]

Use Nero on the lowest write speed - this always worked for me

[124fan]

I've made three MP3 discs now using Nero and Windows Media player, and still no joy, so I think if I want to continue down this road I may just try and order the updates from my dealer.

Cheers

:mad:

[glojo]

I've made three MP3 discs now using Nero and Windows Media player, and still no joy, so I think if I want to continue down this road I may just try and order the updates from my dealer.

Cheers

:mad:
Have you tried these disc's in another E-class? Are you certain they will work in another car? I'm sure they work perfectly on your computer or hi-fi but they might not work on a COMAND?

My offer stands regarding posting me the CD.

regards
John

[124fan]

Thanks....PM sent

Cheers

:)

Just missed the post collection today, but it should be with you early in the New Year!

[mercedesfreak07]

Hi guys, just woundering if you can help... i have a viano with comand 2.0 installed. I tried to use the new 7.0 version in my system but it doesnt seem to be working. Ive been reading about updates.. but i was woundering if anyone can point me in the right direction of where to obtain one and if i can download it??

Thanks in advance

[glojo]

Hi guys, just woundering if you can help... i have a viano with comand 2.0 installed. I tried to use the new 7.0 version in my system but it doesnt seem to be working. Ive been reading about updates.. but i was woundering if anyone can point me in the right direction of where to obtain one and if i can download it??

Thanks in advanceHi,
Most talk on this thread is about the system fitted to the E-class (model S\W211 series) and that is a different type to what you have. Hopefully folks with a similar system will be along shorftly to help out.

Regards
John

[124fan]

:bannana: Well my MP3 function is now in full operation :bannana:

Thanks glojo (John) and everyone who contributed in my dilemma.

A little more experimenting needed now on correctly formatting CD's and DVD's.

Best Regards

:rock:

[Cixi]

:bannana: Well my MP3 function is now in full operation :bannana:

Thanks glojo (John) and everyone who contributed in my dilemma.

A little more experimenting needed now on correctly formatting CD's and DVD's.

Best Regards

:rock:

How did you solved the problem?

[124fan]

How did you solved the problem?

I personally didn't solve the problem, the kind and knowledgeable folks on here did that.

My Comand unit 'had' been updated (still a few updates to get) in the early days of the cars life '04, so when it had a proper MP3 CD in the head unit it recognized it immediately, the problem was the way I was making the MP3 Disc!

I still haven't mastered that art though!

Cheers

:)

[glojo]

Cixi
I get confused with the very latest COMAND's that are fitted in differing model's, but if your system is the same as the 211 E-class then please feel free to pm me and we can work together to get your problem sorted.

Regards
John

[Cixi]

how can I show you version of my comand?

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[glojo]

I'm hoping Dan, Alfie or Richard will comment but in the meantime do you have a seperate DVD unit in the rear of the vehicle dedicated to the navigational DVD?

If your COMAND can play, or should play Mp3's then I would guess what works on one 'should' work on another and we will loose nothing by trying.

I can only recite the way I do things and it has never failed.

1. I gather my Mp3 files into the relevant folders.
2. Make sure you only have Mp3 files No playlists, no text files
3. Make sure there are no more the 255 files, or 255 folders
4. Make sure there are no empty folders, or folders that do not contain Mp3's
5. Write all the folders onto the root of the Cd or DVD

You can if you want, put 255 files onto the root of the disc but any files that are not kosher Mp3's might cause problems. Mucking about, or fine tuning the Mp3's might cause problems.

I use Nero Express Data CD\DVD with all the default settings and touching wood as I type, it never fails. There is other CD writing software that can be used and I'm sure it gives similar results, I have a method that works and am happy with it. :)

If you are doing this and your still getting problems then please pm me.

Regards
John

[steve.link]

The HU SW Version appears to be 9.390 Build 15/04 which is now 4 years old.

Its for a European SLK COMAND APS. I think its the last version that allows access to the Engineering Menu, Video in motion etc.

One of the options in the hidden menu is to enable/disable MP3 - I would check this. Instructions at this link:

http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/towerpark/HiddenMenusv2.pdf

The document was complied after tests on a SLK350

Hope this helps

[DansSlk]

MP3 has always been enabled on the 171SLK.

Cixi was saying in another thread his unit wont play MP3's on DVD's but that it was playing them on CD's, so its not a problem with the COMAND

[Cixi]

Right.
It worked only on CD's.
Now I got it back with the oldest firmware I'm gonna try DVD-R and DVD+R then DVD-RW and DVD+RW to see what is the best combination or the one that work on it.

[glojo]

MP3 has always been enabled on the 171SLK.

Cixi was saying in another thread his unit wont play MP3's on DVD's but that it was playing them on CD's, so its not a problem with the COMAND:) It is very rarely hardware error :devil: ;)
When our COMAND was first upgraded to play Mp3's I was handing out a nice supply of shiny circular bird scarers. :o :o If folks need to re-sow their lawn's with grass seed then CD's on a piece of string make great bird scarer's :D :)

Regards
John

[steve.link]

Right.
It worked only on CD's.
Now I got it back with the oldest firmware I'm gonna try DVD-R and DVD+R then DVD-RW and DVD+RW to see what is the best combination or the one that work on it.

Cixi

My Comand played MP3's on a DVD R disk - I always burned them with Nero on the lowest write speed

[andy_cyp]

+1

[masqueraid]

I have my MP3's on DVD+RW. Separate folders for each album and individual tracks inside the folder. About 50 albums on a DVD.

[Cixi]

Cixi

My Comand played MP3's on a DVD R disk - I always burned them with Nero on the lowest write speed


Is that +R or -R??

[steve.link]

Is that +R or -R??


Its a DVD-R

Regards

Steve

[Diesel Benz]

CD/DVD drives have improved a lot over time. An early Audio 10 CD radio had difficulties with home made CD roms. The W221 DVD drive plays flawlessly home made dual layer DVD videos. In any case the disc brand makes a big difference, the worst DL DVD I've used failed on my laptop DVD drive, basically only worked on the device it was burnt with.

[Cixi]

In a few days I'll be back home so I can try burning DVD-R +R -RW +RW so I can tell you.

[shiraz]

Hi

I'm new to this forum and am impressed with the wealth of information.

I am now the ex-owner of a W210 2000 E430 Avantgarde and unfortunately do not drive a Mercedes-Benz anymore. However, my dad has a W211 2003 E500 Avantgarde and I need to confirm something.

The hardware and software versions are still dated 2003 so I would imagine that no updates have been applied during routine services. Am I correct in assuming that I cannot access the "Hidden Menu" from the Engineering Menu on this version.

Effectively all I want is to enable MP3 playback. He currently uses DVD's to play his music but it would be advantageous to be able to use MP3 format.

One other thing, our COMAND seems erratic at times. For example, it would recognise a DVD and play it but after switching off the vehicle and then restarting, it won't recognise the DVD which is then ejected. It will be recognised after inserting it again.

We are in Cape Town, South Africa and have the Euro spec COMAND.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

[glojo]

We are in Cape Town, South Africa and have the Euro spec COMAND.

Any assistance would be appreciated.Hi shiraz,
The first tghing to establish is:


Is the COMAND a factory fitted option supplied when the vehicle was new

Is, or was the vehicle serviced by a Mercedes-Benz main dealer?

If the last two answers were yes then I would be very surprised if the problem is the COMAND. If the answer is no, then the car will need a number of service upgrades. Please do not attempt to obtain the codes to access the Engineers Menu. It is an expert subject and a button pressed in haste may prove VERY expensive.

I'm sure we can resolve your problems with just a little time and lots of patience.

regardsw
John

[shiraz]

Hi shiraz,
The first tghing to establish is:


Is the COMAND a factory fitted option supplied when the vehicle was new

Is, or was the vehicle serviced by a Mercedes-Benz main dealer?

If the last two answers were yes then I would be very surprised if the problem is the COMAND. If the answer is no, then the car will need a number of service upgrades. Please do not attempt to obtain the codes to access the Engineers Menu. It is an expert subject and a button pressed in haste may prove VERY expensive.

I'm sure we can resolve your problems with just a little time and lots of patience.

regardsw
John

Thanks for the prompt response John. We had the COMAND in the E430 and therefore elected to delay delivery of the E500 as the COMAND wasn't initially available in the W211 upon release here in South Africa.

We've had the car since new and it is a factory-fitted option. Secondly, under the maintenance-plan agreement, we're required to only service at Mercedes-Benz dealers, so yes to your second question.

I had done extensive reading on this and other forums before trying to access the engineering menu. It is extremely frustrating dealing with the service advisors here in South Africa about issues like these - they not really interested and therefore say it cannot be done.

With the COMAND in the E430, I managed to download and .rar file from some site, created a CD and performed an upgrade myself. That was four years ago and today they still unsure if it could be upgraded:mad:

[glojo]

We've had the car since new and it is a factory-fitted option. Secondly, under the maintenance-plan agreement, we're required to only service at Mercedes-Benz dealers, so yes to your second question.Right..... :)

Have you physically tried the CD\DVD's that you have put the music files on; have you physically tried them in another E-clas 211 and see them playing? It is far better to check the basics before we start to meddle with the electrics. I have yet to find a dealer maintaned vehicle that has not had the correct service upgrades carried out and fingers crossed you arenot the first :) We must however be careful not to get confused with early US COMAND's that I believe had difficulty in playing Mp3's

Regards
John

[shiraz]

Right..... :)

Have you physically tried the CD\DVD's that you have put the music files on; have you physically tried them in another E-clas 211 and see them playing? It is far better to check the basics before we start to meddle with the electrics. I have yet to find a dealer maintaned vehicle that has not had the correct service upgrades carried out and fingers crossed you arenot the first :) We must however be careful not to get confused with early US COMAND's that I believe had difficulty in playing Mp3's

Regards
John

Hi John,

No I haven't tried it in another W211 - I don't have access to another one with COMAND. We have tried all possibilities of burning the CD/DVD's. For what it's worth, we've successfully managed (after some difficulty) managed to play MP3's in our BMW 550i.

If it helps, I have accessed the Engineering Menu and have confirmed that the software is still dated 2003 - the problem is that I cannot access the Hidden Menu within the Engineering Menu.

The vehicle is with the dealership as we speak to have the brake pads changed. I have requested they do an update of the COMAND (went as far as supplying them with the version, build and part number details) - we'll see what excuse they come up with.

In fact, on Monday, I emailed Mercedes-Benz South Africa via their website and am yet to receive a response - quite disconcerting.

[glojo]

Hi John,

No I haven't tried it in another W211 - I don't have access to another one with COMAND. We have tried all possibilities of burning the CD/DVD's. For what it's worth, we've successfully managed (after some difficulty) managed to play MP3's in our BMW 550i.
I would seriously, seriously suggest you first the CD in another 211, how many people strip down a television without first checking the fuse? I'll pm you the reason ;)

Please feel free to send me a copy of the CD and I will cvheck it out on my car.

Regards
John

[dsolds]

It is easier I find in talking versions. The update disc that we are talking about is a 'patch' that resolves a few modifications. It is not an official upgrade for the COMAND and it is certainly not a mapping update.
REgards
John


Hi John
Forgive me but I am losing the thread here. Are you saying that this "patch disc" will give eta on the front screen?
I have w211 2003 model COMAND with version 7.0 mapping disc. All works fine but will not display the ETA without pressing some buttons.
If this is the case, is it available from MB? I use MB Direct for servicing but they have never heard of this.
If not the case, will the latest firmware update CD part number w211 589 13 2200 do the business for me?
Alternatively, does anyone have a disc I could borrow to do the update please? All postage paid and a pint thrown in for good measure.
Thanks loads
Dom.

[andy_cyp]

Patch disc will give you eta on your comand.

[Cixi]

Patch disc will give you eta on your comand.

Let me understand.. with Patch Disc do you mean Update Disc so new version of firmware?

[DansSlk]

Yes he does.

The patch disk is the update disk.

[glojo]

Yes he does.

The patch disk is the update disk.Dan is spot on but this is more a question than statement.

Everything before this 'patch' disc has been an update to the COMAND and usually carried out whenever the vehicle is serviced by a main dealer. This patch for ETA falls outside that criteria and in my experience most dealers will not install it free of charge.

This is a question and not a statetment of fact, but I would be extremely surprised if this single patch disc would instruct the COMAND to play Mp3's if it never played hem before. 99% of 211 owners that have problems are possibly incorrectly writing their CD\DVD's.

Regards
John

[evdok]

Does the comand play DVD+RW? mine dont unless im using cheap disc's :confused:

[glojo]

Does the comand play DVD+RW? mine dont unless im using cheap disc's :confused:I'm not sure I have any,but will give my son a call and se if he has one that I can try.

Is there a reason for using a more costly iption? I only ask because the ordinary DVD contains an awful lot of music and ours contains just about every song I would ever want to listen to :devil: :)

I'll chase up my son.

Regards
John

[evdok]

Im complying a DVD music video and am using the RW as a tester

[Diesel Benz]

Would be best to refer to the same car but the W221 has worked fine with all DVD+RW disks I've tried. Which DVD media brand did you use? Try Verbatim if it does not work with others.

Why not make a DVD copy on a DVD+RW disc first to be sure you are only testing the media, not the disc compilation.

[DansSlk]

Dan is spot on but this is more a question than statement.

Everything before this 'patch' disc has been an update to the COMAND and usually carried out whenever the vehicle is serviced by a main dealer. This patch for ETA falls outside that criteria and in my experience most dealers will not install it free of charge.

This is a question and not a statetment of fact, but I would be extremely surprised if this single patch disc would instruct the COMAND to play Mp3's if it never played hem before. 99% of 211 owners that have problems are possibly incorrectly writing their CD\DVD's.

Regards
John
John's right here most problems with playing DVD's are not caused by the hardware.

The headunit is fussy but with a little practice it can be done.

To test if your headunit does have the software that supports MP3 burn some onto a CD.

[Cixi]

My unit does not play DVD-RW as well as DVD+RW.
I tried different brand and I ended up using DVD-R or DVD+R using nero ISO format and closing the session.

[glojo]

Just been chatting with my son and he states that it will be a can of worms and IF a R|W disc works it will be more luck than judgement. I strongly recommend you start easy and work your way up. Write a CD\DVD, if it fails to work on your COMAND then before trying to fiddle with anything, cHECK THE CD WORKS on another vehicle's system. I cannot, cannot emphasis this enough. The effort will be worth it:)

Regards
John

[shiraz]

I would seriously, seriously suggest you first the CD in another 211, how many people strip down a television without first checking the fuse? I'll pm you the reason ;)

Please feel free to send me a copy of the CD and I will cvheck it out on my car.

Regards
John

I got the vehicle back last week but was unable to respond for a while.

As mentioned previously, the Engineering Menu showed that the software on our model was still dated 2003 - ie. no updates had been done at all even though the vehicle was only serviced the MB agents.

I requested that they please update the COMAND software when I took the vehicle in to replace the brakes pads. They did not know what I was talking about. I then showed them the what the latest version of the software available was by giving them the part number of the disc (I found that in this thread - thank you.)

After a bit of resistance, they agreed to contact Mercedes-Benz themselves - what do you know? There is an update:mad:

They downloaded the update, created a disc and then updated the COMAND. Unfortunately now, I cannot access the Engineering Menu to see what version we're running, but my initial goal has been achieved - we can now play MP3's on the COMAND unit.

I would have liked to still have access to the Engineering Menu to enable Video In Motion - not to play DVD's, but to see the Menu of the DVD for the MP3's. We can play MP3 on either CD or DVD. With the DVD software, we can create some nice menus which enables one to select songs via a particular artist or from a particular album, etc. This is only available when not moving.

Anyway, thanks for the information guys.

[glojo]

After a bit of resistance, they agreed to contact Mercedes-Benz themselves - what do you know? There is an update:mad:
.Amazing,
About 18 months ago when I spoke to our service department our 211 had in excess of 25 service upgrades since we took delivery.

John

[Cixi]

To get the menu back you must downgrade the firmware

[DansSlk]

To get the menu back you must downgrade the firmware
And that comes with very big risks

[ibrar]

And that comes with very big risks

seconded

[andy_cyp]

Dont even bother trying to get the engineering mode back after youve had an upgrade, far to risky.

[shiraz]

Amazing,
About 18 months ago when I spoke to our service department our 211 had in excess of 25 service upgrades since we took delivery.

John

We've had the service upgrades - what they call campaigns, but never anything to the COMAND.

Even when it went in now, they had to replace some bolts on the front suspension as part of a campaign. I know there was one for the SBC and a few others. It would be interesting to find out how there are in total and how many have been carried out on our vehicle.

[shiraz]

No, not interested in downgrading, but thanks for the warning.

The main concern was to enable MP3 playback. Video In-motion would have been great for the Menus, but is not worth the risk involved. Can Video In-motion be set via Star?

[glojo]

We've had the service upgrades - what they call campaigns, but never anything to the COMAND.

Even when it went in now, they had to replace some bolts on the front suspension as part of a campaign. I know there was one for the SBC and a few others. It would be interesting to find out how there are in total and how many have been carried out on our vehicle.I'm baffled by what your saying, are you suggesting that no service upgrades have been carried out on this 2003 vehicle and it has only had recall work carried out? There has been any number of upgrades to the COMAND system, the only one that is not s servicing issue is the one we tend to describe as the ETA update. From what is being discussed that one is the only improvement that dealers will regularly not install but it has absolutely NOTHING to do with why 211's Will not play MP3's. I suspect there is more to what has happened than meets the eye??

Either your car has been correctly maintained by a main dealer, or it hasn't. If you have paid top dollar for the servicing of this vehicle then I would not be a happy bunny. Main dealer servicing is very expensive and if you have not been given a main dealer quality service then I would be screaming from the rafters and demanding answers. The service item to enable MP3 playing was released in early 2004 and if your vehicle has been regularly serviced by a Mercedes-Benz main dealer then the car has not been correctly maintained.

Inspection of bolts was a TSB issued way back in 2006 although there have been subsequent instructions regarding this.

Glad to hear you can now play MP3's

John

[shiraz]

The vehicle only has 44000km on the clock, so it doesn't go in very often, but it does go in at least once a year.

There have been a number of campaigns that needed to be done, but, I mentioned, none to upgrade the COMAND.

[noemi1981]

Can anyone confirm that w211 589 13 2200 is the latest update disc for my 211's command. Please!!!

[noemi1981]

w211 589 13 2200 is update disc for my 211's command. Please help!!!

[glojo]

w211 589 13 2200 is update disc for my 211's command. Please help!!!Patience ;) :o
We are all waiting for either Alfie or richard to reply.
That is Alfie :)

If you can't wait then contact this link (http://www.comand.co.uk/)

regards
John

[Diesel Benz]

w211 589 13 2200 is update disc for my 211's command. Please help!!!

From the info I have, this seems to be the latest update for the W211 COMAND (you don't mean the navigation processor?). I wouldn't mind Alfie or Richard to confrm though.

[richard]

Yes, I beleive it is

[noemi1981]

I want 589 13 2200 service upgrade W211, I do not want maps only soft! Please.I am from poland but does not have dealer here

[noemi1981]

I must have guns CD not me mercedes 2005 navi update service w211589132200 Command

[martinidry]

Hi,
I’ll be really very grateful if someone may help me.
I own a W211, MY ’04 (E320CDI, Avangard) with factory fitted COMAND APS. In Sept.2007 I bought a Version 6 of the Navigation map DVD from a MB Workshop. Prior to start the disk, they had to upgrade somehow the Comand Head Unit or Navi-unit (but I am not sure did they do it for the both units or upgraded only one of them, because the technicians of MB did not look very familiar with this specific matter). Few days ago I get form a friend of mine his newer v7 Map DVD (the original one, not a burned copy) , but my Comand system did not recognize it. Is it possible my SW/Firmware to be not up to date? How may I check which is the present SW/Firmware version installed on my Comand APS? The HU plays perfectly MP3-s burned on DVD-R. The Navi doesn’t show ETA.

Thank you very much!

[martinidry]

Hi, there!
I managed the problem :) I just get the newest Version 8 (2008) for Comand APS NTG1. Now it's working properly. Thanks to all who wanted, but missed to reply my prev. post :)

[Alfie]

Sorry, I missed your earlier question.

There are two updates for comand in the W211. One is for the nav processor which it sounds like you dont need or already have, the other is for the Head unit.

[martinidry]

Thanks a lot, Alfie!
Probably the SW update of HU would allow it to show ETA.

[Alfie]

Thanks a lot, Alfie!
Probably the SW update of HU would allow it to show ETA.

Yes it will.

[Greek God]

Hello Gents
I have been following this thread wih interest and wonder I might ask a question? I have a 05/05 E270cdi which came with an Audio 20. I have now had a comand system retro fitted by a chap in Leicester (Recommended on this site who was great). It all works fine with Mp3s playing, Ipod integration and Ver7.0 navigation. I can access the engineering menu, but have only done so to check whether I can! At present video in motion (DVD) is enabled but ETA is only avaliable by pressing the top left soft key twice in Map mode. If I were to do the 07 (w211 589 13 2200) patch/upgrade to enable ETA to be visible constantly in the map mode, will I lose the DVD in motion function?
Many thanks in advance
GG

[Diesel Benz]

Hello Gents
I have been following this thread wih interest and wonder I might ask a question? I have a 05/05 E270cdi which came with an Audio 20. I have now had a comand system retro fitted by a chap in Leicester (Recommended on this site who was great). It all works fine with Mp3s playing, Ipod integration and Ver7.0 navigation. I can access the engineering menu, but have only done so to check whether I can! At present video in motion (DVD) is enabled but ETA is only avaliable by pressing the top left soft key twice in Map mode. If I were to do the 07 (w211 589 13 2200) patch/upgrade to enable ETA to be visible constantly in the map mode, will I lose the DVD in motion function?
Many thanks in advance
GG

Yes you would. There are means to get it back if you feel it really necessary. I would just do the update.

[crockers]

Why do you want video in motion??? It is illegal to use it so why risk a fine etc :eek: :confused: :eek:

And the excuse - I dont look at it - it's for my kids wouldn't wash with Mr PC..if you can see it it's illegal..

[glojo]

Why do you want video in motion??? It is illegal to use it so why risk a fine etc :eek: :confused: :eek:

And the excuse - I dont look at it - it's for my kids wouldn't wash with Mr PC..if you can see it it's illegal..
Totally agree but:

http://sunniebunniezz.com/holiday/images/imagesG/ghogshadow.gif
We are always telling (http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/showpost.php?p=301139&postcount=10) folks this and the excuses are always the same :devil: :o :)

Regards
John

[Greek God]

Thanks for the response(s) & so quick!!
I fully realise the legalities etc But I do have some DVD based music with slides attached which would be lost. Am I also right in thinking that with the Ipod kit the ipod controls are disabled and the only way to access control is via the steering wheel vol and tel buttons - The ipod just has a white screen with the Merc logo and "OK to diconnect" Further does anyone know if the Nav ver8.0 allows full postcode input as opposed to just the first 5 characters?
Again
many Thanks
GG

[Colin10086]

No full postcode search in V8

[Alfie]

Thanks for the response(s) & so quick!!
I fully realise the legalities etc But I do have some DVD based music with slides attached which would be lost. Am I also right in thinking that with the Ipod kit the ipod controls are disabled and the only way to access control is via the steering wheel vol and tel buttons - The ipod just has a white screen with the Merc logo and "OK to diconnect" Further does anyone know if the Nav ver8.0 allows full postcode input as opposed to just the first 5 characters?
Again
many Thanks
GG

Postcode support is 5 characters in V8 and all others for that matter.

Ipod is only controllable from the steering wheel when plugged in to the car/interface.

[oldcro]

Video in Motion enabled, take car and driver to scrapyard. Make driver watch as car is crushed so problem solved. Should result in some interesting posts as to how the police are victimising poor drivers, and make the roads safer for the rest of us law abiding thoughtfull drivers.:eek:

[DansSlk]

Thanks for the response(s) & so quick!!
I fully realise the legalities etc But I do have some DVD based music with slides attached which would be lost. Am I also right in thinking that with the Ipod kit the ipod controls are disabled and the only way to access control is via the steering wheel vol and tel buttons - The ipod just has a white screen with the Merc logo and "OK to diconnect" Further does anyone know if the Nav ver8.0 allows full postcode input as opposed to just the first 5 characters?
Again
many Thanks
GG

I love reading how wound up people get over tv in motion, not that i agree with it personally but i think it's blown out of proportion sometimes.

Anyway, if you just use it for listening to music then it wont be a problem because the video might block itself but the audio wont so it should be no issue at all.

[Greek God]

Thank you Dans - a sensible reply which answers my query completely - I did not realise the audio kept playing
GG

[evdok]

The ETA is a good function!

[cocacola]

I have the Head Unit disk W211 589 06 22 00 - pm your address.

It won't work if your alreaday have a newer version of the s/w - i.e Rel 15/130 build 51/05 or Rel 21/090 build 30/06.

You have a pm regarding the navigation unit disk
Do you mind to share the disc with me because I couldn't find this disc in the USA dealer.

[masqueraid]

I couldn't find this disc in the USA dealer.

Be careful - the European and US versions are not compatible :crazy:

[cocacola]

Be careful - the European and US versions are not compatible :crazy:
I know. I have Euro COMAND in USA, but lack of MP3 function due to old firmware. That's why I am looking for the "W211 589 06 22 00" update disc.